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re: A Scientific dissent from Darwin

Posted on 2/11/19 at 11:17 am to
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 2/11/19 at 11:17 am to
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yep, that's usually about the degree of engagement you get when you question the core of someone's religious beliefs



No, because in order for me to be correct in your mindset, I have to have every single generation of every single animal. That is impossible, and you know it, so you partake in intellectually dishonesty. That and every time we find what you would call a "missing link" all it does is create two new "missing links". One side is honest and the other does this anytime any evidence is given:

Posted by narddogg81
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 2/11/19 at 11:36 am to
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No, because in order for me to be correct in your mindset, I have to have every single generation of every single animal. That is impossible, and you know it, so you partake in intellectually dishonesty. That and every time we find what you would call a "missing link" all it does is create two new "missing links". One side is honest and the other does this anytime any evidence is given:
I was speaking of the most very basic origins of life, of biology. I fully believe organisms evolve and adaot over time through natural selection within the confines available in the plasticity of their dna. I want you, or anyone, to explain how the first organism evolved the cellular machinery to be alive, out of a random mix of amino acids and peptides, just straight up granting that those happened to be present all in one place, in the right properties, etc. How does the very first alive thing make the proteins, enzymes, cellular machinery, etc, that we know for a fact is required for life, when almost all of it is very complex and dependent in a very fundamental way on the presence of the rna and or DNA code and other cell machinery to be present to work. I'm not speaking of evolving organs or complex structures, or changing species, etc. I'm talking about the very most basic possible thing. Even if you had, say, a perfect soup of CGAT nucleobases at the right temp, how do those arrange themselves into something meaningful. Where did the information come from? How do you get from that to even the most basic thing we know is needed, RNA, when there is a host of cellular machinery required to produce RNA, and those bits of machinery themselves require the information stored in RNA to be produced? Please give me some answer other than an appeal to authority fallacy or, we just know it had to.
This post was edited on 2/11/19 at 11:41 am
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