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re: A Scientific dissent from Darwin

Posted on 2/11/19 at 11:03 am to
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 2/11/19 at 11:03 am to
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our fossil records don't show evidence for those kinds of mutations.


The fossil record contains overwhelming evidence of those kinds of mutations.
yeah, they are sequencing fossil DNA? Guess Jurassic Park is just around the corner. Actually, the discrepancy in the fossil record is the reason traditional Darwinism had to be abandoned. The fossil record did not show continual gradations smoothly blending between species, you see a distinct organism pop into existence in the evolutionary blink of an eye, then the next 'step' does the same thing, etc. That's why they came up with the idea of punctuated equilibrium, to explain why the fossils don't show what Darwin predicted. They rely now on the idea of advantageous mutations, despite knowing that like 99.99% of mutations are disastrously disadvantageous or outright fatal, and also ignoring the issues you get with higher order creatures and sexual reproduction, where if you change your DNA too much in one generation it can't be passed on because you suddenly can't breed. And yet over and over in the fossil record you see new, fully evolved, complex creatures explode into existence with no time for all this to happen by the only means available, random chance mutations. And not just once, but dozens of times during the numerous mad extinctions. These limit the time available to million of years, not billions, to recreate complete biospheres
This post was edited on 2/11/19 at 11:11 am
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 11:10 am to
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Actually, the discrepancy in the fossil record is the reason traditional Darwinism had to be abandoned.


Final response. Darwinism hasn’t been abandoned. It’s been refined.

ID is just masked creationism. It can never compete in the scientific community.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28745 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 11:52 am to
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The fossil record did not show continual gradations smoothly blending between species, you see a distinct organism pop into existence in the evolutionary blink of an eye, then the next 'step' does the same thing, etc. That's why they came up with the idea of punctuated equilibrium, to explain why the fossils don't show what Darwin predicted. They rely now on the idea of advantageous mutations, despite knowing that like 99.99% of mutations are disastrously disadvantageous or outright fatal, and also ignoring the issues you get with higher order creatures and sexual reproduction, where if you change your DNA too much in one generation it can't be passed on because you suddenly can't breed. And yet over and over in the fossil record you see new, fully evolved, complex creatures explode into existence with no time for all this to happen by the only means available, random chance mutations.
You say "came up with the idea of punctuated equilibrium" as if it doesn't make sense. Why do you think that a successful collection of mutations wouldn't result in an explosion of the population? They would. They have to. That is the definition of "successful" in the context of evolution. And given the extreme rarity of fossilization, it is not the slightest bit odd that we find fossils of the most successful species.

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