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Roger Stone faces a gag order.

Posted on 1/30/19 at 2:31 pm
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 1/30/19 at 2:31 pm
The federal judge in Stone’s case, Amy Berman Jackson, has already hushed a coterie of others caught in special counsel Robert Mueller’s dragnet, including Paul Manafort, Rick Gates and their attorneys. They were quieted after one of the lawyers told reporters that Mueller’s case was “ridiculous.”

If Stone is gagged, his contingency plan is already in place. He’s got a well-known First Amendment attorney on his legal team who represented the rap group 2 Live Crew against obscenity charges in the early 1990s. And Stone has designated a pair of close friends as spokesmen in the event he and his lawyers are told to stop talking.

Until then, Stone won’t stop chattering.

During Stone’s arraignment hearing on Tuesday, magistrate judge Deborah Robinson opened with a warning that he’d be wise to not speak about the charges in the indictment. “Any statements you make may be used against you,” she said.

But Grant Smith, one of Stone’s attorneys, said in an interview that Robinson’s comments appeared to him to be pro forma. And on social media, Stone acted as though he is still free to speak out.

Such gag orders are often more of a burden on the defense than the prosecution, since prosecutors typically issue a news release or hold a news conference to announce the charges and then go mum about the case — at least officially. In addition, Justice Department policies discourage government attorneys from the kinds of statements most gag orders would rule out.
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Posted by Bunyan
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Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 1/30/19 at 2:33 pm to
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Amy Berman Jackson

A true POS doing the bidding of an out of control prosecutor
Posted by White Sauce bbQ
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 1/30/19 at 2:35 pm to
THIS IS HOW DEMOCRACY DIES. WHEN PATRIOTS CANT TELL THE WORLD ABOUT TYRANNY.
Posted by Bunyan
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Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 1/30/19 at 2:36 pm to
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They were quieted after one of the lawyers told reporters that Mueller’s case was “ridiculous.”

How DARE they tell the truth. They must be silenced!!
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 1/30/19 at 2:37 pm to
I neither understand why gag orders exist nor how they are legal.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 1/30/19 at 2:38 pm to
I hope she orders one for JJbot’s sake
This post was edited on 1/30/19 at 2:39 pm
Posted by boosiebadazz
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Posted on 1/30/19 at 2:39 pm to
I’ll bet you could google it and folks have written law review articles about it
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 1/30/19 at 2:40 pm to
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’ll bet you could google it and folks have written law review articles about it

Ya think so?
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 1/30/19 at 2:41 pm to
Roger has fired up the defense fund raising campaign today. Probably have to throw him a few bones.

Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 1/30/19 at 2:41 pm to
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“Any statements you make may be used against you,” she said.


Sure, but forcing him to not make them seems unconstitutional.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 1/30/19 at 2:42 pm to
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I neither understand why gag orders exist nor how they are legal.

Prosecutors love them. They're always one-sided. You rarely, if ever, see a prosecutor or law enforcement officer held in contempt for violating one, but let a Defendant try and defend himself from selective leaks to the media and he or she will be thrown in jail.
Posted by Jbird
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/30/19 at 2:42 pm to
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Sure, but forcing him to not make them seems unconstitutional.
Posted by BugAC
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/30/19 at 2:42 pm to
I said this from day 1, Stone is going to beat this, and embarrass Mueller and the left and then sue for defamation.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 1/30/19 at 2:43 pm to
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I hope she orders one for JJbot’s sake
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 1/30/19 at 2:44 pm to
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During Stone’s arraignment hearing on Tuesday, magistrate judge Deborah Robinson opened with a warning that he’d be wise to not speak about the charges in the indictment. “Any statements you make may be used against you,” she said.

But Grant Smith, one of Stone’s attorneys, said in an interview that Robinson’s comments appeared to him to be pro forma. And on social media, Stone acted as though he is still free to speak out.


How is this a gag order?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 1/30/19 at 2:44 pm to
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How is this a gag order?


It's not. Yet.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14936 posts
Posted on 1/30/19 at 2:44 pm to
Maybe that's because Stone allegedly threatened Randy Credico, an adverse witness in the case, called him a rat, and told Credico he'd better act like a character in the Godfather -- the character who refused to testify against the Godfather.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/30/19 at 2:46 pm to
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Maybe that's because Stone allegedly threatened Randy Credico, an adverse witness in the case, called him a rat, and told Credico he'd better act like a character in the Godfather -- the character who refused to testify against the Godfather.
Dix you think he will do that on Fox news?
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
41200 posts
Posted on 1/30/19 at 2:46 pm to
That is irrelevant to a full fledged gag order. You can solve the problem you mentioned by ordering Stone to cease communications with any and all potential witnesses and their families.
Posted by bmy
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Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 1/30/19 at 2:46 pm to
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It's not. Yet


Sounded like advice and nothing more
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