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re: "Western Civilization" has demonstrated its superiority in many areas
Posted on 1/11/19 at 10:25 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 1/11/19 at 10:25 am to SlowFlowPro
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you only get to use this example due to very unique geographical issues that isolated them...
...from extreme influence of western civ, yes, that's why I selected them.
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requires ignorance of the millions of other similar societies that are no longer around.
Many of those having succumbed to the technological prowess of the West.
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i think simple societal stats like violent behavior, life expectancy, infant mortality, etc should do
That shows your bias. What if infant mortality was reduced to zero and the population swells to exceed the carrying capacity of the environment?
The green revolution in Africa has been a near disaster. We bring miracle drugs, and miracle methods of agriculture that massively swelled the populations in Africa - simultaneously making them dependent on us for their continued survival. Meanwhile the population stress has led to massive conflicts, including genocide.
To me, the measure of success for a culture is sustainability. If the technological advances of western civ end up being our very demise, well, that's not an indicator of a great culture to me.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 10:28 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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...from extreme influence of western civ, yes, that's why I selected them.
uh
i don't think their biggest threat was Western. do you want me to get a map?
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Many of those having succumbed to the technological prowess of the West.
the vast majority succumbed to the technological prowess of countless other cultures. "the West" is only about 500 years old. human society is about 12,000 years old. you do the math
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That shows your bias. What if infant mortality was reduced to zero and the population swells to exceed the carrying capacity of the environment?
the West has solved that. in abundance, we have fewer children
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The green revolution in Africa has been a near disaster. We bring miracle drugs, and miracle methods of agriculture that massively swelled the populations in Africa
well you've just shown your true colors
go think about what you just said
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 10:29 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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To me, the measure of success for a culture is sustainability. If the technological advances of western civ end up being our very demise, well, that's not an indicator of a great culture to me.
That's an odd indicator to focus on.
This is the kind of stuff that dystopian movies are made of
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