re: Is Kingsbury to Cardinals the most WTF hire ever in the NFL?

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This is the most interesting part about to me. His most notable proteges, Mahomes and Manziel were both considered technically flawed and raw when entering the NFL. Their natural abilities were their calling cards, Manziel's improvisational skills and Mahomes' cannon arm. Not saying the coach can't cultivate other guys any but he can't pass their innate abilties to Josh Rosen.

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Exactly. It's one thing to have a talented athlete, and put him in a system against inferior competition, and put up some points. It's another thing to take that talent and refine it into something that can succeed at the next level.

It's also interesting to look at how both Manziel and Mahomes performed against LSU, a team known for it's NFL talent on defense. LSU handled both of them quite well.

And considering Kliff didn't even win in college, along with his lack of reputation as a developer, I just don't get why the Cardinals would hire him.