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re: Clemson’s o-line vs LSU’s o-line
Posted on 1/10/19 at 10:32 pm to WaWaWeeWa
Posted on 1/10/19 at 10:32 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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This is the type of hypothetical argument that is meaningless and has no place in this conversation
You invited it when you decided to compare the offensive lines. It's definitely a fair question and the answer right now is none.
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Posted on 1/10/19 at 10:38 pm to bencoleman
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You invited it when you decided to compare the offensive lines. It's definitely a fair question and the answer right now is none.
I guess it's fair to say that not a single coach on LSU's coaching staff is good enough be a member of Clemson's then. Fair questions and all.
I can only assume that you'd agree.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 7:03 am to bencoleman
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It's definitely a fair question and the answer right now is none.
It’s not a fair question because any answer is pure speculation.
explain how Giles went from all-American numbers at Tech to being a liability at LSU? You can’t just take someone’s current level of play in a particular system, especially o line performance as a whole, and determine how they would perform in another system.
This post was edited on 1/11/19 at 7:08 am
Posted on 1/12/19 at 3:59 am to bencoleman
[/img] Ben:
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I'm not defending the scheme. The offensive line had serious problems this season and I'm simply trying to identify those problems. You, however, have an agenda so you try to either ignore those or minimize them so you can denigrate the coaching staff.
The scheme was severely limited by Oline play. I don't understand why people couldn't see that. It's my belief as of now that the anti O crowd actually saw it but would rather ignore the lack of depth and slam the coaches.
In the coming arms race to play high level spread passing attacks with star skill athletes, the Tide’s normal advantages, playing style, and accumulated recruiting talent doesn’t necessarily put them at advantage. They’re going to have to change the way they play and their big picture strategies to avoid Clemson putting them in the same dilemmas with an even better and more experienced unit (Lawrence and Ross are freshmen!!!).
The game is changed now and Alabama is just one of many teams that will be aiming to try and recreate what Dabo has done.
For years now teams have faced off against Alabama and tried to find ways run the ball against them with VERY few successes. Clemson has shown little interest in trying to out muscle the Tide but instead are getting better and better at thwarting Saban’s area of expertise, the secondary.
When an offense has four receivers spread out wide, the defense only has so many ways to match up. It all breaks down when the offense is putting multiple athletes on the field that can’t be covered 1-on-1. With spread sets and motioning Hunter Renfrow around, Trevor Lawrence could get a good look at how Alabama was playing the matchups from snap to snap and then after the snap simply focus on delivering the best possible ball to whichever of his targets had a 1-on-1. With the level of skill that Lawrence and receivers like Justyn Ross possess, there’s not really any answer in the playbook save for the double team and trying to play the Tigers outside-in.
There’s little point these days in over-stressing run defense if your own offense is built around finding matchups to throw the ball down the field. You’re going to end up scoring lots of points and then it’s on the other team’s offense to match. That’s going to be hard to do if their strategy for scoring points is to drive the length of the field with steady gains and conversions and then punching it in from the red zone where your own defense has less and less space to worry about while applying pressure and numbers to stop the run.
Clemson Scheme and Coaching - They were built to beat ALA and win the CFP NC: It is not the players, it is the Coaches/Scheme:
Their Scheme is multi-dimensional spread, RPO, up-Tempo, with so many options that the Defense is not able to key on the QB, RB, TE, WRs and if they blitz Clemson breaks an explosive run, quick pass, or vertical pass.
Their core Coaching group has been together for 8-9 yrs, steadily building Tempo, and developing QBs from Tajh Boyd, Watson, Lawrence.
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