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Is Miles a Top 10 head coach?
Posted on 5/8/08 at 9:43 am
Posted on 5/8/08 at 9:43 am
Sure, he's got the bucks now. He's right there at the top in the SEC for contract dollars. He's won an NC. He's taken a team to a 34-6 record over the last three years. He's destroyed three Top 10 teams in three straight bowl games, two of which were BCS bowls.
So, why is it, whenever you see lists of the best coaches, Les' name isn't there?
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This dickhead ranked Miles at #41 a year ago
Same dickhead, now after an NC, he ranks Miles at #20
So, why is it, whenever you see lists of the best coaches, Les' name isn't there?
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This dickhead ranked Miles at #41 a year ago
Same dickhead, now after an NC, he ranks Miles at #20
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Posted on 5/8/08 at 9:44 am to Proejo
We will have a better understanding of where he should rank after this year. Saban's players are gone.
Posted on 5/8/08 at 9:44 am to Proejo
More to coaching than Xs and Os. I would say Miles is in the top 25, but does it really matter when you have the best talent in the nation?
Posted on 5/8/08 at 9:45 am to Proejo
There is no place for idiots like Les in the top 10. What are you smoking?
He can win 10 more titles and he is still an idiot who won just because he gambles and got lucky. Lucky bastard!!! /sarcasm
He can win 10 more titles and he is still an idiot who won just because he gambles and got lucky. Lucky bastard!!! /sarcasm
Posted on 5/8/08 at 9:45 am to Proejo
If you haven't won a NC, you don't belong in the top 10. Period.
Posted on 5/8/08 at 9:46 am to That One
That 3rd list is an absolute half a joke.
Posted on 5/8/08 at 9:46 am to esjcats92
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I would say Miles is in the top 25, but does it really matter when you have the best talent in the nation?
Ahem...there is a guy called Pete on the west side who loses to Stanford with better talent.
Posted on 5/8/08 at 9:47 am to Proejo
That dumbass has Mike Leach of Texas Tech at 11. 
Posted on 5/8/08 at 9:47 am to Proejo
Because Miles is a coach who lets his assistance really coach. He doesn't micromanage everthing, but still is the Top Dog.
Posted on 5/8/08 at 9:48 am to That One
quote:Pete has also gone undefeated. Like I said, more to coaching than Xs and Os.
Ahem...there is a guy called Pete on the west side who loses to Stanford with better talent.
Posted on 5/8/08 at 9:49 am to Proejo
ehhhh, tough one. I think Miles is a good players coach, which make him a good recruiter. I think he's very personal which make the players and thier parents feel comfortable about being a part of his program. I think he should leave the ingame stuff to his co-ordinators (i.e. play calling and personel decisions).
I think he posses good qualities that some of the great in-game coaches don't.
I think he posses good qualities that some of the great in-game coaches don't.
Posted on 5/8/08 at 9:49 am to esjcats92
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does it really matter when you have the best talent in the nation?
The biggest part of being a college coach is recruiting so, yes, it really does matter in college.
Part of the measurement of a college coach is how well you recruit. Pete Carroll sucks as an X's and O's coach but is one hell of a recruiter so that is why he wins and gets credit as a good coach.
The reason Miles is so low on everyone's list is because he gives terrible interviews. He is aloof and not a polished speaker. He comes across as an idiot at times.
Perception is reality in the media age.
Posted on 5/8/08 at 9:50 am to ZeeDustin
Oh, crap here we go with the "Saban's players" #hit again...
Posted on 5/8/08 at 9:51 am to Proejo
the sportingnews also said LT should have been a 3rd punt returner pick in the draft.
Posted on 5/8/08 at 9:51 am to TheEye
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I think he posses good qualities that some of the great in-game coaches don't.
So why aren't those "intangibles" an equalizer? Seems like he's done pretty much everything it takes except losing to a hugely inferior team (USC<Stanford).
Posted on 5/8/08 at 9:52 am to Proejo
I think people around the country consider Miles in the same mold, maybe a little better, than Mac Brown.
People think he's not that great of a coach, even though he won a championship and that thought is always in the back of their heads.
Unfortunately, Miles didn't have a lot of hype coming from Ok State and people questioned the hire. Those minds are going to be hard to change. People who come in with great hype get the advantage of the other side of the coin (see Wies, Urban Myth and Saban to Bama) just because they are big names.
I think Miles is in the top 15, maybe top 10. It's hard to decide, because guys like Brian Kelly and Paul Johnson are great coaches who haven't really had a chance with a major power yet, a la Miles, Brown, Pete, etc.
I am just personally glad Miles is here.
People think he's not that great of a coach, even though he won a championship and that thought is always in the back of their heads.
Unfortunately, Miles didn't have a lot of hype coming from Ok State and people questioned the hire. Those minds are going to be hard to change. People who come in with great hype get the advantage of the other side of the coin (see Wies, Urban Myth and Saban to Bama) just because they are big names.
I think Miles is in the top 15, maybe top 10. It's hard to decide, because guys like Brian Kelly and Paul Johnson are great coaches who haven't really had a chance with a major power yet, a la Miles, Brown, Pete, etc.
I am just personally glad Miles is here.
Posted on 5/8/08 at 9:53 am to Proejo
If coaching is judged on titles and wins, Miles should be there on that list. No matter how he does it! And many forgot he gave Bob Poops plenty of trouble with a lot less talent.
Bottom line, he could suck as a Xs and Os coach, he could suck as a public speaker, he could be a riverboat gambler...donesn't matter, he produces Ws on the field.
Bottom line, he could suck as a Xs and Os coach, he could suck as a public speaker, he could be a riverboat gambler...donesn't matter, he produces Ws on the field.
This post was edited on 5/8/08 at 9:55 am
Posted on 5/8/08 at 9:54 am to Proejo
Mark Richt as #6
Jim Grobe at #5
Joe Tiller at #18
Jim Grobe at #5
Joe Tiller at #18
Posted on 5/8/08 at 9:57 am to Proejo
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So why aren't those "intangibles" an equalizer? Seems like he's done pretty much everything it takes except losing to a hugely inferior team (USC<Stanford).
I agree. Like someone else said, he's not a good interviewer. He comes off as goofy.
Posted on 5/8/08 at 9:57 am to ehidal1
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Mark Richt as #6
He's not even the 6th best coach in the SEC.
Miles, Meyer, Spurrier, Saban, Fullmer, Paterno, Tubby > Richt
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Joe Tiller at #18
Tiller is pretty good. I think it's hard to win at Purdue.
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