re: 2015: Finished 10*-3 and the AD attempted to fire the head coach

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Probably left more talent though. Right?

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More talent than Georgia? Debatable. But in general, Les recruited heavy on DB's and RB's. RB was a bit dry when he left. We were loaded with DB's, I'll give him that.

But Les left a lot to be desired on the O-lines, and D-lines for that matter.

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I'm not saying blame, but he has more experience with the team and more influence with the team than a typical coach in his second year. I'm also considering his retainment of a good chunk of that staff.

A typical new hire coach will probably release more than 70% of a staff, including the two most important positions. O kept over 60%, including one of Coordinator roles.

To me, that makes the "let it play out timeline" different from a typical new hire head coach. He didn't make nearly as many changes.

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I'll give you that.

But I'm just saying, his first partial year, he was simply just cleaning up the year. They were 2-2 and with Les, heading down a disaster of a year. He patched that up pretty well I'd say. But I don't know how much he really accomplished that year knowing that he was only an interim and hadn't been named head coach.

Look, I actually think we agree on more than we disagree.

Would you agree that comparing Coach O, 2.5 year in to his tenure, with Les Miles entire LSU career, is fair? Just because 10-3 and top 10 this year is considered acceptable for a 2.5 year coach, doesn't mean it will be acceptable in his 4th year. Agree?

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And I didn't even bring into the discussion of what Les has done regarding QB recruitment since he started at LSU. To shite the bed every single year, then expect another coach to come in and provide a decent starting QB is tough in 2 years.