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2, then 1.5, then 1, then .5, then -0 Game Over
Posted on 11/26/18 at 4:57 pm
Posted on 11/26/18 at 4:57 pm
If the clock had rolled over to 1 second then was stopped with whatever fraction of one second remaining, still to be counted down internally, before it rolled to zero, then A&M could have legally executed 1 more play.
This is not what happened. The ball was snapped as the clock rolled to one second on the scoreboard clock and the ball hit the ground before it rolled to zero. The clock did not stop and it rolled to zero. There are no tenths of a second in Football. IF A&M HAD TIME REMAINING IT WOULD NOT BE POSSIBLE TO PUT IT ON THE CLOCK. THE GAME IS OVER.
You can't run a play if there is less than 1 second remaining before the snap. Ask Les.
The full second given to A&M to execute the next play is where we got screwed. If the official time is kept in tenths(it is not) then the clock could be set to reflect whatever fraction of one second that A&M had remaining. To award a full second is to give them extra time unfairly.
THEY GOT IT WRONG!!!!
O IS RIGHT. THERE SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN 1 SECOND PUT BACK.
I know it won't matter. BUT
This is not what happened. The ball was snapped as the clock rolled to one second on the scoreboard clock and the ball hit the ground before it rolled to zero. The clock did not stop and it rolled to zero. There are no tenths of a second in Football. IF A&M HAD TIME REMAINING IT WOULD NOT BE POSSIBLE TO PUT IT ON THE CLOCK. THE GAME IS OVER.
You can't run a play if there is less than 1 second remaining before the snap. Ask Les.
The full second given to A&M to execute the next play is where we got screwed. If the official time is kept in tenths(it is not) then the clock could be set to reflect whatever fraction of one second that A&M had remaining. To award a full second is to give them extra time unfairly.
THEY GOT IT WRONG!!!!
O IS RIGHT. THERE SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN 1 SECOND PUT BACK.
I know it won't matter. BUT
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Posted on 11/26/18 at 5:01 pm to DocSavage
Review showed ball on ground with 1 second on the clock. The game isn’t over until it reads 0. There were 10ths left.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 5:03 pm to rsylve
When the ref waives his hands to stop the clock is when it stops.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 5:05 pm to rsylve
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Review showed ball on ground with 1 second on the clock. The game isn’t over until it reads 0. There were 10ths left.
They gave them a full second back not tenths. They cant give you tenths that is why the game is over. the only way you can run a play after it rolls to zero when it starts at 1 is on a penalty. its called a free play.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 5:07 pm to DocSavage
Started a thread earlier over this and it just puzzles me how you can run a play that takes no time off the clock.
Basically a free time-out. Every play as to take at least 1 second off the clock...
Basically a free time-out. Every play as to take at least 1 second off the clock...
Posted on 11/26/18 at 5:14 pm to LsuTigers80
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Every play as to take at least 1 second off the clock...
Not every play. you could clock the ball fast enough at 4:32 in the fourth and have the clock still read 4:32. Internally the clock reads 4:32 and 9 tenths. One tenth after they start the clock it would read 4:33. But a play where the ball is snapped in the last second of a period has to take 1 second off because there are no more full seconds to be displayed.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 5:19 pm to DocSavage
Ah I see your reasoning, just crazy that they added back a second there.
This post was edited on 11/26/18 at 5:21 pm
Posted on 11/26/18 at 5:21 pm to DocSavage
Yes but the clock stopped and it doesn’t start again until the snap.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 5:21 pm to rsylve
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Review showed ball on ground with 1 second on the clock. The game isn’t over until it reads 0. There were 10ths left.
Yeah, you could definitely tell the ball was clearly on the ground from that 200 foot high press box view. Everyone in America was watching the same game and everyone knows it was trash.
And I suppose A&M was in a legal formation too right?
Posted on 11/26/18 at 5:25 pm to rsylve
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Yes but the clock stopped and it doesn’t start again until the snap
The clock did not stop it went to zero and they added back 1 second
Posted on 11/26/18 at 5:40 pm to rsylve
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Review showed ball on ground with 1 second on the clock. The game isn’t over until it reads 0. There were 10ths left.
I watched the replay in slo-mo and if you watch the ball hit the ground bythe time you look back to the time inset as fast as you can the clock is on zero. If you freeze frame it you can stop it to appear that there is a whole second left.
Now consider this explanation on NOLA.com. The clock had 3seconds on it when the referee started the clock. The ball was snapped with 2 seconds or less. NCAA rule says you cannot spike the ball with less than 3 seconds on the clock. Play should not have been allowed.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 5:42 pm to GetmorewithLes
Yeah snapped it with 1 second
Posted on 11/26/18 at 5:46 pm to LsuTigers80
He also got tackled with 5 seconds left and they ran it 2 more seconds before stopping it.
Its unfortunate that this loss has to linger for over a month but we need to stop talking about this shite.
Its unfortunate that this loss has to linger for over a month but we need to stop talking about this shite.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 5:52 pm to CWilken21
Good point, its over.
Only argument I would have to that is that play clocks aren't always precise when it comes to a player being down.
Only argument I would have to that is that play clocks aren't always precise when it comes to a player being down.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 5:53 pm to GetmorewithLes
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The clock had 3 seconds on it when the referee started the clock. The ball was snapped with 2 seconds or less. NCAA rule says you cannot spike the ball with less than 3 seconds on the clock. Play should not have been allowed
Not exactly. Here's the rule:
Rule 3: Periods, Time Factors and Substitutions
Section 2. Playing Time and Intermissions.
Article 5. Minimum Time For a Play After Spiking a Ball
"If the game clock is stopped and will start on the referee's signal with three or more seconds remaining in the quarter, the offense may reasonably expect to throw the ball directly to the ground. and have enough time for another play. With two or one second on the game clock there is only time for one more play.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 5:54 pm to DocSavage
One turned in to two, two turned into ten, now I’m lit
Posted on 11/26/18 at 5:55 pm to DocSavage
Regardless of the clock, the LSU defense let them complete a miracle pass and that ultimately cost us the game.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 6:00 pm to DocSavage
Yes when the review showed the bill on the ground with one second remaining.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 6:01 pm to DocSavage
OP doesn't understand how the clock works. I explained in another thread - won't repeat here.
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