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re: Do you believe in the Fermi Paradox: The Great Filter?

Posted on 11/20/18 at 5:43 pm to
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 11/20/18 at 5:43 pm to
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The fact that 2 cars can theoretically hit head-on but go right through each other without touching is mind blowing enough. But being theoretically possible to teleport could be a game changer in interstellar travel.


You misunderstand this.

It's true that subatomic particles do something like this, in fact it's becoming a major problem for transistor manufacturers. Particles will simply "tunnel" through a barrier.

But even that isn't quite stating accurately what is happening. A particle doesn't really have a position, it has a probability function that describes the likelihood of it's position if one measures it. That probability is slightly > 0 for certain subatomic particles in transistors.

But keep in mind that this is for a single tiny particle jumping a few nanometers across a barrier. For large objects (like cars) jumping meters past each other is another matter. That probability is so small that for the lifetimes of billions of universes it still isn't happening. It's greater than zero, but so incredibly tiny that we can confidently say it just won't happen.

And "teleporting" across interstellar distances is even less likely than that.

Source: Got my degree in Physics and Astronomy and spent far too much time doing homework calculating stuff like this. For subatomic particles yes this is a thing, anything larger and no it isn't.
Posted by PCRammer
1725 Slough Avenue in Scranton, PA
Member since Jan 2014
1467 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 5:48 pm to
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That probability is so small that for the lifetimes of billions of universes it still isn't happening. It's greater than zero

Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61512 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 5:53 pm to
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And "teleporting" across interstellar distances is even less likely than that.


Not if it's moving through a wormhole.
Posted by NOLALGD
Member since May 2014
2289 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 6:47 pm to
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But keep in mind that this is for a single tiny particle jumping a few nanometers across a barrier. For large objects (like cars) jumping meters past each other is another matter. That probability is so small that for the lifetimes of billions of universes it still isn't happening. It's greater than zero, but so incredibly tiny that we can confidently say it just won't happen.


I think I remember someone trying to calculate the odds of two similar sized objects doing this and it was something like 1 in some number with a million zero's. And to be perfectly clear for the OT that is not 1 in 1,000,000. It is 1 in that number with a million zero's behind it!
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 7:07 pm to
How the hell did that come out of somebody with the username 'foshizzle'?

Are you secretly this guy -









This post was edited on 11/20/18 at 7:08 pm
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 7:11 pm to
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But keep in mind that this is for a single tiny particle jumping a few nanometers across a barrier. For large objects (like cars) jumping meters past each other is another matter. That probability is so small that for the lifetimes of billions of universes it still isn't happening. It's greater than zero, but so incredibly tiny that we can confidently say it just won't happen.

And "teleporting" across interstellar distances is even less likely than that.


Exactly. OP went to the Bill Nye school of quantum mechanics.
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
26230 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 7:43 pm to
Foshizzle May be the smartest mother fricker on this site. I mean that’s like having the biggest dick in Asia. Still impressive.
Posted by SlapahoeTribe
Tiger Nation
Member since Jul 2012
12129 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 10:43 pm to
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Source: Got my degree in Physics and Astronomy and spent far too much time doing homework calculating stuff like this. For subatomic particles yes this is a thing, anything larger and no it isn't.

Holy shite... there’s two of us on this site?


Posted by eatpie
Kentucky
Member since Aug 2018
1158 posts
Posted on 11/21/18 at 7:36 am to
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And "teleporting" across interstellar distances is even less likely than that. Source: Got my degree in Physics and Astronomy and spent far too much time doing homework calculating stuff like this. For subatomic particles yes this is a thing, anything larger and no it isn't.


Maybe just a few generations ago the absolute best minds in physics and science would have confidently said man going to space, or the moon, was impossible.

Might be unlikely now, to our (your) tiny minds, but who knows?
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