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This talent gap argument is a horseshite excuse and needs to stop

Posted on 11/5/18 at 11:03 am
Posted by DBG
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Member since May 2004
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 11:03 am
Alabama has a significant talent edge against EVERYONE they play. Why are we the only team to get shutout?

If this were strictly an Alabama talent vs. LSU talent issue, why do we stumble and bumble against most everyone on the schedule?

Fact is, this offense is no different than the worst Les Miles/Cam Cameron offense. In some aspects(running game), it’s significantly worse. How many of you were banging this talent gap drum in 2014?

My sincere hope is that Ensminger retires this offseason and tells Ed he gave it a shot. No reason for Steve to tarnish his legacy as a player, coach, and local guy.

We will not compete for any championship until the offense is completely overhauled, from staff to recruiting to philosophy.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295436 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 11:05 am to
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Why are we the only team to get shutout?


Because we played vs their first team most of the game and missed a FG.

Everyone else has had their backups the second half.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 11:06 am to
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Everyone else has had their backups the second half.


Ole Miss scored on their first play. Arkansas scored in both the first and second quarters. Try different excuse.
Posted by LSUballsack
Oweo's alter
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 11:07 am to
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Everyone else has had their backups the second half.




bullshite...
This post was edited on 11/5/18 at 11:07 am
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
83154 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 11:07 am to
when we play arkansas, ole miss, mississippi state, we always have a decided talent gap over those guys.

yet how are they able to keep games close (usually) and beat us (sometimes)?

hmmm...maybe it's bc they, i dunno, schemed around the talent gap?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295436 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 11:07 am to
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Ole Miss scored on their first play.


Ole Miss has a hell of an offense.

What did they do afterward?

Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 11:08 am to
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Because we played vs their first team most of the game and missed a FG.

Everyone else has had their backups the second half.




wow, someone actually gets it
Posted by Manswers
Michigan
Member since Feb 2009
3722 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 11:09 am to
The reason is coaching. O and E are not elite. They are good guys that can get us to 8 or 9 wins as long as we have Aranda but we will continue to get outclassed against Bama and we will continue to lose one or two games a year to inferior opponents. That is what happens when your team as average to below-average coaching with elite talent.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
88664 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 11:10 am to
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Ole Miss has a hell of an offense.

What did they do afterward?


They scored more than us, bottom line. Your post about people only scoring on Bama's backups is bullshite.
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
78555 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 11:10 am to
Ole Miss, Texas A&M, Arkansas, Missouri, and Tennessee all scored in the 1st half

Next...
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
10335 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 11:10 am to
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Because we played vs their first team most of the game and missed a FG. Everyone else has had their backups the second half.


Every other sec team Alabama has played scored at least one touchdown against Alabama in the first half this year.

All of them except Tennessee scored in the first quarter.

Try again.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
88664 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 11:10 am to
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wow, someone actually gets it


Except for the whole other teams scoring in the first quarter, but yea. He definitely gets it .
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 11:14 am to
The obvious answer is because LSU never gets to play Bama's second teamers because the game was still somewhat in doubt until they end. But also, Bama played two offenses ranked in the top 20 of S&P+ (Mizzou and Ole Miss) and allowed a combined 17 points.

Would you feel better if Tracy hit his field goal? LSU had two red zone trips in the fourth quarter. Let's say they even scored touchdowns on both of them, would that 29-14 score make it any less of a beatdown it was? Screw window dressing.

Bama won because it has more talent at virtually every position. LSU is one of the few teams that forces Bama to play their talent fully, which sucks for us. But the difference on the line was obvious. Now, the good news for LSU is that this is an extremely young line (one senior and 4 upperclassmen in the two-deep) that has been hobbled by injuries. Bad for the now, great for development.

Overhauls take time. If you haven't noticed, the line has been stripped down to the bolts. We're in the rebuilding phase of that unit (and still need another elite recruiting class to go with the freshmen).
Posted by BayouBengals18
Fort Worth
Member since Jan 2009
9843 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 11:14 am to
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Because we played vs their first team most of the game and missed a FG. Everyone else has had their backups the second half.


Maybe if you Cheerios keep saying this, it will become true.
Posted by lesmiles4president
Latex, TX
Member since Oct 2015
21 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 11:14 am to
There is a HUGE talent gap between our o-line and their's
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
88664 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 11:15 am to
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Let's say they even scored touchdowns on both of them, would that 29-14 score make it any less of a beatdown it was? Screw window dressing.


Are you joking? You've got to be joking.

Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
55383 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 11:15 am to
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Ole Miss has a hell of an offense. What did they do afterward?
Arkansas doesn't have an all world offense and they scored 14 in the first quarter.
Posted by LSUFanMizeWay
Picayune MS
Member since Sep 2014
6497 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 11:15 am to
Because we didn't play against their 8th String Defense, we played against their Starters the entire game.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295436 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 11:16 am to
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Maybe if you Cheerios keep saying this, it will become true.



Another great product of the Louisiana education system...
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
88664 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 11:16 am to
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Because we didn't play against their 8th String Defense, we played against their Starters the entire game.




Arkansas scored a TD on their first team. Twice.
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