re: King of Queens - What's your thoughts?

Weird show.

But funny.

Doug was always desperate because he worried about Carrie leaving him being out of his league.

So he lied about everything.

Carrie lied about everything because she was always trying to be upwardly mobile and have higher class friends - and didn't want Doug to feel bad that she wasn't exactly thrilled with movies, beer and Cheetos on the couch as the height of their social life.

He lied to keep her, she lied to conceal that she was always trending away.

The show created that weird dynamic that desperate Doug and looking for greener pastures Carrie - but then at the end of each show - she'd say she loved Doug and he didn't need to lie...she just wished he'd try a little harder to give her want she wanted.

As much as a dysfunctional show as Raymond. But that's the standard couples sitcom blueprint starting with Lucy.

He was succesful with a crazy wife. People forget, the show was predicated on Lucy being a loon...maybe not now, but especially back then when it aired. Not only was she demanding and wanting and doing things a traditional wife back then shouldn't be doing...but she wasn't manic and somewhat crazy for that period.

Debra wasn't crazy...she was just unhappy with the parents next door and not having a voice of her own in that family dynamic.

Carrie seemed - always - that she felt misgivings about settling and where her life had taken her and that as she got better jobs didn't want to be in Queens and was always trying to fix Doug into being more sophisticated.

Carrie wasn't a good person; Debra was just a nag in an intolerable situation.