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Where can I find NFL season ticket renewal numbers?

Posted on 9/7/18 at 8:35 pm
Posted by Stingy
TN
Member since Mar 2014
1907 posts
Posted on 9/7/18 at 8:35 pm
I bet they're down at least 5 - 10%. If these numbers can be found they will be a true indicator of the Trump effect.
Posted by CapperVin
Member since Apr 2013
10654 posts
Posted on 9/7/18 at 8:46 pm to
Last I saw renewals were down 15%
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 9/7/18 at 8:47 pm to
Back in Jan it was reported we'd get numbers around June/July. That never happened, so I presume the numbers were bad for the NFL and kept on the QT
Posted by mwade91383
Washington DC
Member since Mar 2010
7077 posts
Posted on 9/7/18 at 8:59 pm to
Two of their biggest contracts were replaced with even bigger deals THIS YEAR, 2+ years into the protest controversy (Pizza Hut replacing Papa Johns and Thursday Night Football).

There’s your indicator. Advertisers and broadcasters (the real money) are upping the ante. Do your best to spin that though......

This post was edited on 9/7/18 at 10:00 pm
Posted by j bro12
LA
Member since Jan 2012
1550 posts
Posted on 9/7/18 at 9:09 pm to
I know the Saints had a ton of vacancies. Me and a lot of people I know received emails saying our number on the waiting list was up.
Posted by Load Toad
Haughton, LA
Member since Aug 2008
2461 posts
Posted on 9/7/18 at 9:15 pm to
I read on post that seats was open that wasn't open in long time. I think season ticket waiting list drop 15k.
Posted by gamatt53
Member since Nov 2010
4934 posts
Posted on 9/7/18 at 9:20 pm to
In theory should mean that tickets are cheaper right? Sweet! May go to more games than I was planning on this year
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
34823 posts
Posted on 9/7/18 at 9:21 pm to
quote:

There’s your indicator. Advertisers and broadcasters (the real money) are upping the ante. Do your best to spin that though......


Moron. Broadcasts which are typically viewed live and not recorded so the viewer can FF through the commercials are the most in demand programs on TV. It’s not surprising that they are still valuable. What your pea brain fails to grasp is just how much more the deals would have been valued at without the recents distaste for the nfl.
Posted by flyAU
Member since Dec 2010
24900 posts
Posted on 9/7/18 at 9:29 pm to
I fricking paid 4k for PSL’s before this shite started.
Posted by mwade91383
Washington DC
Member since Mar 2010
7077 posts
Posted on 9/7/18 at 9:32 pm to
Lol, did you even read what you just said??? Good grief.

Here’s a free hint: were NFL games not viewed live anytime in the last 4 years since the protest started?
This post was edited on 9/7/18 at 9:37 pm
Posted by Stingy
TN
Member since Mar 2014
1907 posts
Posted on 9/7/18 at 9:47 pm to
quote:

Two of their biggest contracts were replaced with even bigger deals THIS YEAR (Pizza Hut replacing Papa Johns and Thursday Night Football). 

There’s your indicator. Advertisers and broadcasters (the real money) are upping the ante. Do your best to spin that though....


Wait, you're using the Papa John's contract to prove your point. Have you been under a rock? Nevermind.
Posted by mwade91383
Washington DC
Member since Mar 2010
7077 posts
Posted on 9/7/18 at 9:50 pm to
Pizza Hut is paying more than Papa Johns did, despite the ratings dip 2+ years into the protest controversy.

This isn’t hard.
Posted by mwade91383
Washington DC
Member since Mar 2010
7077 posts
Posted on 9/7/18 at 9:53 pm to
Also you really shouldn’t be accusing anyone of being “under a rock” banking on ticket sales as some trump indicator, which have been dipping for some time, even before Trump.

You can thank your big fancy HD TV for that.
Posted by Stingy
TN
Member since Mar 2014
1907 posts
Posted on 9/7/18 at 9:55 pm to
How old was Papa John's contract, genius? Trump's economy has driven prices up on everything in case you were not aware...even the failing NFL.

Anyway, my question was about season ticket renewals. Take reading comp 101.
Posted by mwade91383
Washington DC
Member since Mar 2010
7077 posts
Posted on 9/7/18 at 9:58 pm to
Season tickets or single game, send trends. They aren’t new.

You also have a fundamentally flawed understanding of tv contracts (and maybe how the economy works as well), but you do, stick to ticket sales.
Posted by mwade91383
Washington DC
Member since Mar 2010
7077 posts
Posted on 9/7/18 at 10:03 pm to
Also, while you’re at it, since we’re in a booming trump economy and college football teams don’t protest, why have they been seeing less average gameday attendance for several seasons now (peaked in 2013)???

Looking forward to your in depth economically based argument separating the two. Promises to be riveting stuff....
Posted by Stingy
TN
Member since Mar 2014
1907 posts
Posted on 9/7/18 at 10:06 pm to
I'm not exactly sure what you're saying. I just want to know where I can find the season ticket renewal numbers to confirm my beliefs that the NFL is in a death spiral...partly because of your President.
Posted by Stingy
TN
Member since Mar 2014
1907 posts
Posted on 9/7/18 at 10:10 pm to
Apperently, you like rabbit holes. None of your post have anything to do with NFL season ticket renewals and our President.
Posted by mwade91383
Washington DC
Member since Mar 2010
7077 posts
Posted on 9/7/18 at 10:18 pm to
Yeah, I know what you’re looking for. What I’m telling you, in so many words, is you’re not going to find it. Especially if you’re legitimately looking for an indicator the NFL is in a “death spiral”, I assure you, they are not (assuming this CTE stuff doesn’t ever catch up w them).

Nobody thinks this protest stuff is good for business, bottom line, that’s undeniable. The difference is it’s marginal, and probably temporary. People around here just like to think otherwise, even it’s not based on much reality.
Posted by mwade91383
Washington DC
Member since Mar 2010
7077 posts
Posted on 9/7/18 at 10:22 pm to
Let me try and be more clear, ticket sales (including season ticket renewals) have been trending down on average every year for some time. As in, before Trump and Kap.

You’re going to have a really hard time finding the evidence you want to support your claim. Unless you willfully ignore the surrounding basic statistics.
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