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Posted on 8/23/18 at 12:37 am to
Posted by MastrShake
SoCal
Member since Nov 2008
7281 posts
Posted on 8/23/18 at 12:37 am to
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Everything about your post was spot on except for this observation. Miles simply did not make adjustments. It was the most frustrating 60 minutes of football I’ve ever watched. ZERO adjustments. Astonishing.
At some point in the 3rd I picked up one of my dining room chairs like Pete Townshend with a guitar and smashed the frick out of it. And these were VERY expensive chairs, so I understand your frustration, I really really do, but the more you think about this...
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Kirby Smart says Gregg Williams of Saints helped w plan to contain option plays
the more insane you realize it is. We didnt lose, bama cheated.

1. As I already said, Williams is an NFL lifer, it's likely he had never even seen the option in a game he was coaching, what possible new insight could he have to stop it?

2. But let's pretend he did have some ideas. Does nick saban seem like the kind of guy to take that advice? Williams has never worked with saban. Or Kirby Smart. Or Bill Belichick, for that matter. I cant find any professional connection between them, yet saban is gonna build his NCG game plan around the advice of a stranger? Does that seriously sound like nick saban?

3. Oh, and by the way, he didn't need any advice. I think we can all agree that Jordan Jefferson wasn't exactly Tommie Frazier, and saban already knew him very well. By the NCG, he had seen Jordan in 2009, 2010, and 2011. In those three games he ran for 86 yards, combined.

saban didn't need help with the option, and Williams couldn't provide help with the option, but as DC for the Saints, Williams was able to watch LSU practice in the dome, so he did have something saban could use.

Our signals.

Look at every other Miles vs Saban game at the time and there is nothing even close to the 2011 NCG. The games were always tight, LSU always moved the ball and always scored.

2007 - LSU wins 41-34. LSU has 407 yards passing, 87 rushing.

2008 - bama wins 27-21. LSU has 184 yards passing, 201 rushing

2009 - bama wins 24-15. LSU has 185 yards passing, 95 rushing.

2010 - LSU wins 24-21. LSU has 220 yards passing, 225 rushing.

2011 - LSU wins 9-6. LSU has 91 yards passing, 148 rushing.

2011 NCG - bama wins 21-0. LSU had 39 yards passing, 53 rushing.

2012 - bama wins 21-17. LSU had 296 yards passing, 139 rushing.

2013 - bama wins 38-17. LSU had 241 yards passing, 43 yards rushing.

2014 - bama wins 20-13 in OT. LSU had 76 yards passing, 183 rushing.

There's one obvious outlier there. One game. The NCG.

Kirby Smart, by his own admission, met with a guy who had watched us practice, and that guy told him how to stop us. The result was the one and only game where LSU suddenly couldn't even breath on offense.

It was a complete shutdown. You know, as if bama knew exactly what was coming.

and despite the score, our defense was essentially just as good as it was in the first game.

in the regular season game, bama missed FGs because they were a mile away. they missed from 44, 50, 49, and 52.

in the NCG, they were much closer. thats what stealing signals does, when the other offense cant move, you get the ball back at midfield. this time they made FGs from 23, 34, 41, 35, and 44.

with 5 minutes to go in the game it was 15-0 and they still had nothing but FGs. field position was everything.

But is Gregg Williams the kind of guy who would do such a thing?

Well he's the same guy who brought HIS bounty system to the Saints, the same one he had in DC and Buffalo, and then INSTANTLY rolled over and told the NFL everything they wanted to hear so he could get off light. As a side note, helping saban would definitely be a good way to get in tight with Belichick, a huge plus for any NFL defensive coach.

And how about saban? Is he the kind of guy who would take signals? You know, the exact thing his mentor Belechik did in Spygate when he recorded the Jets practice? The same nick saban who, by shocking coincidence, reportedly recorded Oklahoma when they practiced in the Dome before the 2003 NCG? The same nick saban who hired an GA from Ole Miss and then had him him in the booth scouting the other teams signals for exactly one game (try and guess what game it was).

Is he the kind of guy to steal signals?

The answer to all these questions are "frick" and "yes".

If all you see is "LSU lost the NC because bama stole their signals", yes, it sounds like obvious pouting, but once you understand what Williams did and why it makes no sense on any level, it's not pouting, we got fricked.
This post was edited on 8/23/18 at 8:07 am
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20561 posts
Posted on 8/23/18 at 6:23 am to
Sadly, I believe this conspiracy theory has weight. You watch the first game, and then compare to the BCS game, and you can see the following:

Bama made some adjustments, but still couldn't move much against our defense. Like you point out, it was still a 2 possession game with 5 minutes to go.

Meanwhile, their defense was in 100% perfect position on just about every single play. We couldn't drive the ball 25, 30 yds on any series. If we get one or two drives that get us field goals, the game is a repeat of the prior matchup... we get some points, and Bama loses field position and doesn't get points on those drives. They might still win, but it doesn't look so lopsided in the final result.

Posted by Dave England
Member since Apr 2013
5107 posts
Posted on 8/23/18 at 10:13 am to
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We didnt lose, bama cheated.


you should be banned for spreading lies like this.
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
10455 posts
Posted on 8/23/18 at 3:59 pm to
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The answer to all these questions are "frick" and "yes".

If all you see is "LSU lost the NC because bama stole their signals", yes, it sounds like obvious pouting, but once you understand what Williams did and why it makes no sense on any level, it's not pouting, we got fricked.


Fricking A, bro! But, you know, we are not allowed to say such things here. It's considered bad form to complain when the other team has an unfair advantage.
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