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Finding a job out of state
Posted on 7/22/18 at 12:50 pm
Posted on 7/22/18 at 12:50 pm
Long time lurker, first time poster.
I'll try and keep this as short as possible while giving the most background info.
Wife and I are looking to move out of state (either DFW or Phoenix area). Wife should be able to stay remotely at her company (others have done it), so we should be good there.
Problem seems to be me,
. Currently in management at a Fortune 500 company (Accounting / Finance), been at same company for 12 years and worked my way up to current Mgr. role - 4.5 years.
About 1.5 months ago, I started applying to various roles in both cities (talked to and given my resume to some recruiters as well). I'd say 90% of the roles I've applied for are lateral roles (Manager), 5% Sr. Mgr and 5% Director.
So far, I've had 1 callback with a phone interview with CFO in Phoenix (very small company)...went great, he was ready to fly me out there for in person interview but wanted to talk money first...we were too far apart so we went our separate ways (no hard feelings on either end).
Also had a recruiter from another company call about a role I applied for - Phoenix again (said company outsources their recruiting to a 3rd party), recruiter said role probably wouldn't pay enough and I was above it (her words, not mine). Said there was a higher level role she thought I would be a good fit for, but they wanted a CPA (I don't have that, have a Master's degree). Haven't heard back, so I'm assuming they didn't bite (again, no problems there, not overly concerned with one particular role, etc.).
I've even tried to cold email a handful of hiring managers, tailored some cover letters based on the company and tailored my resume for most of the jobs I've applied to based on the job description (all 100% factual, just highlighting certain things based on what they are looking for).
Big picture is....has anyone done this recently and had similar issues? If so, did you do anything different? While I didn't expect to be flooded with calls / emails, I'm somewhat surprised I've received so little response (especially applying in 2 huge cities with the DFW market supposedly "hot"). I've probably applied in upwards of 60-70 roles in the past 1.5 months, plus multiple recruiters having my resume.
TIA
I'll try and keep this as short as possible while giving the most background info.
Wife and I are looking to move out of state (either DFW or Phoenix area). Wife should be able to stay remotely at her company (others have done it), so we should be good there.
Problem seems to be me,
. Currently in management at a Fortune 500 company (Accounting / Finance), been at same company for 12 years and worked my way up to current Mgr. role - 4.5 years. About 1.5 months ago, I started applying to various roles in both cities (talked to and given my resume to some recruiters as well). I'd say 90% of the roles I've applied for are lateral roles (Manager), 5% Sr. Mgr and 5% Director.
So far, I've had 1 callback with a phone interview with CFO in Phoenix (very small company)...went great, he was ready to fly me out there for in person interview but wanted to talk money first...we were too far apart so we went our separate ways (no hard feelings on either end).
Also had a recruiter from another company call about a role I applied for - Phoenix again (said company outsources their recruiting to a 3rd party), recruiter said role probably wouldn't pay enough and I was above it (her words, not mine). Said there was a higher level role she thought I would be a good fit for, but they wanted a CPA (I don't have that, have a Master's degree). Haven't heard back, so I'm assuming they didn't bite (again, no problems there, not overly concerned with one particular role, etc.).
I've even tried to cold email a handful of hiring managers, tailored some cover letters based on the company and tailored my resume for most of the jobs I've applied to based on the job description (all 100% factual, just highlighting certain things based on what they are looking for).
Big picture is....has anyone done this recently and had similar issues? If so, did you do anything different? While I didn't expect to be flooded with calls / emails, I'm somewhat surprised I've received so little response (especially applying in 2 huge cities with the DFW market supposedly "hot"). I've probably applied in upwards of 60-70 roles in the past 1.5 months, plus multiple recruiters having my resume.
TIA
This post was edited on 7/22/18 at 1:20 pm
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Posted on 7/22/18 at 1:01 pm to LSU_TC
You're doing something wrong if you can't get an interview in Dallas. People are hiring like crazy.
I'm not saying you aren't qualified or anything like that, but you evidently have something wrong with your resume or something. Have you let anyone critique your resume, whether it's someone you trust or one of those services?
I'm not saying you aren't qualified or anything like that, but you evidently have something wrong with your resume or something. Have you let anyone critique your resume, whether it's someone you trust or one of those services?
Posted on 7/22/18 at 2:27 pm to LSU_TC
Are you requesting relocation? Are you putting your address on the resume? Try leaving your address off just to get your foot in the door. Husband and I just relocated because we were able to keep our jobs but I sent some emails to certain jobs that looked especially interesting and when I left my address off I saw an increase in response. It helped that I also didn't require relocation.
Posted on 7/22/18 at 3:39 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
Thanks for the responses so far. To answer your questions,
- Yes, I've had others look at my resume (and I have a pretty optimized LinkedIn profile as well). I'm sure I don't have the best looking resume in the world, but I haven't received any negative feedback.
- Anytime I've talked to someone or had to fill it out on the application, I've noted that I didn't need relocation.
- Regarding the addresses, on any application I fill out online, it makes me put in a home address....I've wondered if that's been an issue putting my out of state address but not sure how else to get around that. My resume doesn't show my current address, but I do have the city / state showing the places I worked (maybe that's my problem?).
- Yes, I've had others look at my resume (and I have a pretty optimized LinkedIn profile as well). I'm sure I don't have the best looking resume in the world, but I haven't received any negative feedback.
- Anytime I've talked to someone or had to fill it out on the application, I've noted that I didn't need relocation.
- Regarding the addresses, on any application I fill out online, it makes me put in a home address....I've wondered if that's been an issue putting my out of state address but not sure how else to get around that. My resume doesn't show my current address, but I do have the city / state showing the places I worked (maybe that's my problem?).
This post was edited on 7/22/18 at 3:45 pm
Posted on 7/22/18 at 3:43 pm to LSU_TC
If you are applying to large companies, then relocation is an afterthought for management positions. The right skill set is everything.
You are applying for roles similar to yours today yet minimal bites? That doesn’t make any sense, especially since you work for a recognizable F500 today. Something else is going on...my first inclination is it is likely a resume issue.
You are applying for roles similar to yours today yet minimal bites? That doesn’t make any sense, especially since you work for a recognizable F500 today. Something else is going on...my first inclination is it is likely a resume issue.
This post was edited on 7/22/18 at 3:44 pm
Posted on 7/22/18 at 5:21 pm to lynxcat
Another thing I'm noticing is that when I look at some of these positions on LinkedIn, they already are showing 50-100+ applicants a few days into the posting.
Posted on 7/23/18 at 11:28 am to LSU_TC
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Another thing I'm noticing is that when I look at some of these positions on LinkedIn, they already are showing 50-100+ applicants a few days into the posting.
That's standard...there are tons of applicants for most corporate jobs. You can't let that get in your head.
Posted on 7/24/18 at 9:32 am to LSU_TC
I've found that timing is so important with these kinds of moves. You have find that company that is looking for your skillset AT THE SAME TIME they are looking to fill an immediate role. It's tough and you're going to probably have to make 100 different contacts/applications to get 10 bites... to hopefully get a couple offers.
You're doing the right thing by cold emailing and putting yourself out there, but again, its all about timing.
I've had success looking at openings on LinkedIn and 'InMail' the person that posted the position, or finding the Recuriter/HR manager for that company. You will need to pay the monthly fee for LinkedIn premium, but It's worth it for a couple months.
You're doing the right thing by cold emailing and putting yourself out there, but again, its all about timing.
I've had success looking at openings on LinkedIn and 'InMail' the person that posted the position, or finding the Recuriter/HR manager for that company. You will need to pay the monthly fee for LinkedIn premium, but It's worth it for a couple months.
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