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re: So the DNC Server is Clearly Not Important to the Investigation

Posted on 7/17/18 at 8:50 am to
Posted by Decatur
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Posted on 7/17/18 at 8:50 am to
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The “server” Trump is obsessed with is actually 140 servers, most of them cloud-based, which the DNC was forced to decommission in June of 2016 while trying to rid its network of the Russian GRU officers working to help Trump win the election, according to the figures in the DNC’s civil lawsuit against Russia and the Trump campaign. Another 180 desktop and laptop computers were also swapped out as the DNC raced to get the organization back on its feet and free of Putin’s surveillance.

But despite Trump’s repeated feverish claims to the contrary, no machines are actually missing.

It’s true that the FBI doesn’t have the DNC’s computer hardware. Agents didn’t sweep into DNC headquarters, load up all the equipment and leave Democrats standing stunned beside empty desks and dangling cables. There’s a reason for that, and it has nothing to do with a deep state conspiracy to frame Putin.


Trump and his allies are capitalizing on a basic misapprehension of how computer intrusion investigations work. Investigating a virtual crime isn’t a like investigating a murder. The Russians didn’t leave DNA evidence on the server racks and fingerprints on the keyboards. All the evidence of their comings and goings was on the computer hard drives, and in memory, and in the ephemeral network transmissions to and from the GRU’s command-and-control servers.

When cyber investigators respond to an incident, they capture that evidence in a process called “imaging.” They make an exact byte-for-byte copy of the hard drives. They do the same for the machine’s memory, capturing evidence that would otherwise be lost at the next reboot, and they monitor and store the traffic passing through the victim’s network. This has been standard procedure in computer intrusion investigations for decades. The images, not the computer’s hardware, provide the evidence.

Both the DNC and the security firm Crowdstrike, hired to respond to the breach, have said repeatedly over the years that they gave the FBI a copy of all the DNC images back in 2016. The DNC reiterated that Monday in a statement to the Daily Beast.

“The FBI was given images of servers, forensic copies, as well as a host of other forensic information we collected from our systems,” said Adrienne Watson, the DNC’s deputy communications director. “We were in close contact and worked cooperatively with the FBI and were always responsive to their requests. Any suggestion that they were denied access to what they wanted for their investigation is completely incorrect.”


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In some versions of the servergate conspiracy theory now espoused by Trump, nothing less than physical possession of the hardware will suffice, because Crowdstrike, a respected security firm helmed by a former senior FBI agent, might be part of the deep state’s efforts to frame Putin. White scoffs at that notion, noting that National Republican Congressional Committee is one of Crowdstrike’s customers.

“I’ve done incident response for defense contractors and healthcare groups, this is all standard practice,” said White. “It’s completely defensible in terms of best practices and what was going on.”


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Posted by Placebeaux
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Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 7/17/18 at 8:52 am to
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The “server” Trump is obsessed with is actually 140 servers, most of them cloud-based, which the DNC was forced to decommission in June of 2016 while trying to rid its network of the Russian GRU officers working to help Trump win the election


And thats where I stopped reading. LOL


Did Hillary have 140 servers in her closet?
This post was edited on 7/17/18 at 8:53 am
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:07 am to
Decatur just posting a wall of lies
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:25 am to
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Decatur

You can post all the Leftist computer nerds and academics explanations/justifications for why physical hardware wasn’t ever analyzed by authorities all you like.

What still remains is that a 3rd party company who’s run by a Dem donor, who’s a member of The Atlantic Council, who was paid by Democrats, was the first on the scene and could have easily fabricated all the footprints pointing to Russians, then copied the server image, then simply chronicled the fabrications in a report as if legit, and handed it all to the authorities afterwards.

As has already been confirmed, CrowdStrike got busted trying to insist Russian hackers (Fancy Bear) hacked into a Ukrainian military Android app, but multiple sources, including the app creator and the Ukrainian government itself, confirmed CrowdStrike lied and made the whole thing up.

CrowdStrike admitted they did this to try and confirm association with Fancy Bear being Russian GRU, and they later had to retract their report after being called out for lying.

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What could provide the link between the Russian intelligence agency GRU and Fancy Bear, the group that Crowdstrike claimed was behind the DNC hack? Enter the Ukrainian story.

Crowdstrike needed to strengthen the hack’s connection to the GRU, as Dmitri clearly stated in an interview he did with PBS on December 22: …

”this is why we wanted to produce more evidence that raises the level of confidence that we have, even internally, that this is Russian intelligence agency called the GRU.”

That interview was part of the promotional campaign for Crowdstrike’s ominous December 22nd “Use of Fancy Bear Android Malware in Tracking of Ukrainian Field Artillery Units” report, which claims that it provides evidence that “further supports CrowdStrike’s previous assessments that FANCY BEAR is likely affiliated with the Russian military intelligence (GRU)”.


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On January 6, the Ukrainian Defense Ministry posted a denial on their official website, stating flatly that the claim that 80 percent of D-30 Howitzers had been destroyed by Russian malware was false.

In connection with the emergence in some media reports which stated that the alleged “80% howitzer D-30 Armed Forces of Ukraine removed through scrapping Russian Ukrainian hackers software gunners,” Land Forces Command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine informs that the said information is incorrect.

According Command Missile Forces and Artillery Land Forces of Ukraine, artillery weapons lost during the time of ATO times smaller than the above and are not associated with the specified cause. Currently, troops Missile Forces and Artillery Army Forces of Ukraine fully combat-ready, staffed and able to fulfill the missions.

Ministry of Defence of Ukraine asks journalists to publish only verified information received from the competent official sources. Spreading false information leads to increased social tension in society and undermines public confidence in the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

As Jeffrey Carr summed it up, “Not only did Crowdstrike choose to quote improbably high losses estimated by a Pro-Russia analyst, we now have confirmation from Ukraine’s MOD that (1) those figures were wrong, (2) Crowdstrike’s reason for the losses were wrong, and (3) Crowdstrike’s spread of false information caused harm.”


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This claim by a DNC official that the FBI had never asked for access to the servers clearly rankled some within the Bureau because the next day The Hill reported that an anonymous source not only contradicted the DNC’s claim, but said that the DNC’s lack of cooperation had caused severe problems for the investigation:

“The FBI repeatedly stressed to DNC officials the necessity of obtaining direct access to servers and data, only to be rebuffed until well after the initial compromise had been mitigated,” the official said.

“This left the FBI no choice but to rely upon a third party for information. These actions caused significant delays and inhibited the FBI from addressing the intrusion earlier.”

If any of this raised any suspicions for James Comey, he failed to show it in his January 10th testimony. Instead, Comey calmly told the Senate committee that while he would have liked to have the information directly from the DNC servers, that he was okay with getting the information from the company that they employed, the “highly respected” Crowdstrike. As The Hill reported:

“We’d always prefer to have access hands-on ourselves if that’s possible,” Comey said, noting that he didn’t know why the DNC rebuffed the FBI’s request.
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