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Ok,kind of a spin off,learning about rifle scopes,where to start?
Posted on 7/6/18 at 9:00 pm
Posted on 7/6/18 at 9:00 pm
Trial and error is expensive. Is there a good book?
Knowledge is power.
Here is 1 thing I have going for me.. maybe.
I have incredible long range vision, I don't need the optics that many people do.
I just want scopes that dial in right. And stay there.
Is there an option for me?
Knowledge is power.
Here is 1 thing I have going for me.. maybe.
I have incredible long range vision, I don't need the optics that many people do.
I just want scopes that dial in right. And stay there.
Is there an option for me?
Posted on 7/6/18 at 9:04 pm to auggie
There's an old race car racing saying. Speed costs money, how fast do you want to go?
You got a budget?
You got a budget?
Posted on 7/6/18 at 9:22 pm to kengel2
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There's an old race car racing saying. Speed costs money, how fast do you want to go? You got a budget?
yeah, I do have a budget.
That's why I need to concentrate more on buying the better stuff for just a couple of rifles.
I would like to learn more about how scopes actually work.
Posted on 7/6/18 at 9:47 pm to auggie
What ranges do you think you willl be shooting? 100 yds or less? 100-300? 300+? Etc...
What will you be shooting at?
Do you want variable power or would you consider a fixed scope?
What will you be shooting at?
Do you want variable power or would you consider a fixed scope?
Posted on 7/6/18 at 9:48 pm to auggie
Leupold. Buy the best one you can afford.
Posted on 7/6/18 at 9:49 pm to auggie
The only brands I consider are Swarovski and Zeiss. I know people who like Khales.
Posted on 7/6/18 at 9:55 pm to MakersMarkFan
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What ranges do you think you willl be shooting? 100 yds or less? 100-300? 300+? Etc... What will you be shooting at? Do you want variable power or would you consider a fixed scope?
I live 40 minutes from the CMP range.
I would like to spend more time shooting the long distances, but I also like shooting the really good rimfire rifles at 100 yards. I wish they would let me take my CZs out a little further than 100 yards though.
Posted on 7/6/18 at 9:57 pm to auggie
And you don't need a book. This is how they work. Some see shite real clear and hold zero. Of those, some are super god damn expensive. Bang for your buck, Leopold makes the best glass with the best warranty. Period.
That should start a pretty damn good fight.
That should start a pretty damn good fight.
Posted on 7/6/18 at 10:07 pm to INFIDEL
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And you don't need a book. This is how they work. Some see shite real clear and hold zero. Of those, some are super god damn expensive. Bang for your buck, Leopold makes the best glass with the best warranty. Period.
Leopold has worked pretty damn well for me.
Dialing them in has been smoothly right on the money.. every time. For me, that's the most important thing.
Probably going to go with one of the VXRs.
Posted on 7/6/18 at 10:14 pm to auggie
I have them from a VX1 to an MK4. On everything from custom 22 LR to 300 wsm. None have ever given me one problem. They all hold zero and they zero easy.
Posted on 7/6/18 at 10:17 pm to weagle99
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The only brands I consider are Swarovski and Zeiss. I know people who like Khales.
For optics, or mechanics? Which is your main reason for choosing these?
Posted on 7/6/18 at 10:36 pm to weagle99
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The only brands I consider are Swarovski and Zeiss. I know people who like Khales.
Posted on 7/6/18 at 10:37 pm to auggie
I would recommend doing your research for what you want in a scope.
Do you want a great long range precision scope that supersedes the guns abilities, or is a scope that gets you on 12" steel at 600 yards plenty for what you're willing to pay.
Learn what features are selected for a scope to gain different advantages or to reduce cost.
Read up on first/second focal plane, MOA or MRad Reticles and adjustment increments (this will determine how you will calculate holdoffs and which system you are most familiar with), 30mm vs 35mm tube diameters, parallax adjustment etc.
I wish I still had a great link that I think did a good job summarizing all of these different things and when you would prefer one over the other. Ill ETA if I find it.
Do you want a great long range precision scope that supersedes the guns abilities, or is a scope that gets you on 12" steel at 600 yards plenty for what you're willing to pay.
Learn what features are selected for a scope to gain different advantages or to reduce cost.
Read up on first/second focal plane, MOA or MRad Reticles and adjustment increments (this will determine how you will calculate holdoffs and which system you are most familiar with), 30mm vs 35mm tube diameters, parallax adjustment etc.
I wish I still had a great link that I think did a good job summarizing all of these different things and when you would prefer one over the other. Ill ETA if I find it.
This post was edited on 7/6/18 at 10:41 pm
Posted on 7/6/18 at 10:38 pm to weagle99
I do give you credit for not throwing out Nightforce though.
Posted on 7/6/18 at 10:39 pm to BeauxNArreaux
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I would recommend doing your research for what you want in a scope.
Do you want just a great long range precision scope, or something less delicate that you can strap on your 4 wheeler for a ride through the woods.
Learn what features are selected for a scope to gain different advantages or to reduce cost.
Read up on first/second focal plane, MOA or MRad Reticles and adjustment increments (this will determine how you will calculate holdoffs and which system you are most familiar with), 30mm vs 35mm tube diameters, etc.
I wish I still had a great link that I think did a good job summarizing all of these different things and when you would prefer one over the other. Ill ETA if I find it.
Well, shite. An educated opinion. Its a damn good night on the OB, boys. Damn good night indeed.
Posted on 7/6/18 at 10:46 pm to auggie
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I have incredible long range vision, I don't need the optics that many people do.
Then shoot iron sights snowflake.
Posted on 7/6/18 at 10:53 pm to weagle99
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Swarovski
the best in terms of glass quality. I shoot a Swarovski Z8i, and my next will probably be a Kahles for PRS stuff. Most of the best PRS shooters I know use Kahles.
Nightforce is one of the best in terms of construction.
If you are operating on a budget, buy a Meopta and be done with it. Meopta is the only other brand our Swarovski rep is complimentary of, which is saying something. They make some great scopes with incredible glass for the price. I have one for my 22 and love it.
Check all these out if on a budget:
Meopta Meopta 3-9x40/3-9x50 or 4.5-14x50
Nightforce SHV 3-10x42 or 4-14x5p
Swarovski Z3 3-10x42 or 4-12x50
things to look at when picking a scope:
quality of lenses, quality of lens coatings and spectrum of light that these coatings are optimized for, large ocular lens (large field of view), range of adjustment, greater durability and rigidity, mechanical locking rings instead of adhesive, highly tuned and precisely machined internals for repeatability, large eye box, different reticles and external features, First vs Second Focal Plane, illumination, zero stop feature
I could go on and on. don't skimp out on glass.
This post was edited on 7/6/18 at 11:08 pm
Posted on 7/6/18 at 10:57 pm to Carson123987
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Meopta is the only other brand our Swarovski rep is complimentary of.
Why you reckon that is, Carson?
Posted on 7/6/18 at 10:59 pm to INFIDEL
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Why you reckon that is, Carson?
if you're implying they're related in some way, you're wrong
Swaro and Kahles are, though. The Cabela's Euro HD line is rebranded Meopta as well, if that helps you find a better deal
This post was edited on 7/6/18 at 11:06 pm
Posted on 7/6/18 at 11:06 pm to Cajun367
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Then shoot iron sights snowflake.
I often do.
Should that be the end?
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