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re: Do we have cap room left and who do we target?

Posted on 7/2/18 at 10:56 pm to
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 7/2/18 at 10:56 pm to
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I very easily may be wrong, but since it's all in the moratorium period nothing is official, so the cap holds are still there.


You're right, nothing counts until it's in writing, see DeAndre Jordan to the Mavs/Clips several years ago.

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I believe you can structure the moves to be in any order you want so the exceptions go first, and then the cap holds go away for when Rondo and Boogie sign elsewhere--or whatever order it takes to make it work.


Right, the key is that you have to renounce certain exceptions and cap holds in order to use cap space. Once you use cap space that limits what exceptions you have access to because you renounced them to get to your cap space.

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We are technically under the cap. I think we are going to have a trade before July 6 where we take back salary so we end up over the cap and then use MLE on Randle and BAE on Elf.


I think the simple act of using the MLE rather than cap space is all you need. I don't think they need to take on a trade and go over the cap first, although trading 2nds for a serviceable PG into an existing trade exception would make sense if they don't have the assets to get a Kemba.

Next year is where it gets interesting though. If they don't trade for anyone on a long term deal they can basically get the roster down to AD/Jrue by dumping Solo/Moore. You'd have about $50 million in cap space and a lot of the guys we've been talking about trading for the past few years like Kawhi, Kemba, Butler, and Middleton on the market.
Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 7/2/18 at 11:21 pm to
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If a team is below the cap, then its Disabled Player, Bi-Annual, Mid-Level (either the Taxpayer or Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level, whichever applies to the team) and/or trade exceptions are added to their team salary, and the league treats the team as though they are over the cap1. This is to prevent a loophole, in a manner similar to free agent amounts (see question number 37). A team can't act like it's under the cap and sign free agents using cap room, and then use its Disabled Player, Bi-Annual, Mid-Level and/or trade exceptions. Consequently, the exceptions are added to the team salary (putting the team over the cap) if the team is under the cap and adding the exceptions puts them over the cap. If a team is already over the cap, then the exceptions are not added to their team salary. There would be no point in doing so, since there is no cap room for signing free agents.


Tigerinatl and Jake are right. We just have to pretend like we are over the cap and not use space to have BAE and MLE. However, I still think we are going to see a trade within the next week where we take on salary. I also think we renounce Liggins and possibly Emeka.
This post was edited on 7/2/18 at 11:22 pm
Posted by user name
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 7/2/18 at 11:37 pm to
Any chance we can turn this into a sign and trade? Not sure who it would be since they wouldn’t trade their top 6. Maybe a double sign and trade for Pat McCaw or Looney at 1 year 4.5 mil? I know it seems like an overpay, but we have no other option except the min. It would let GS save their MLE, let boogie keep his bird rights, and give us something playable.
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