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re: We need to go to war with Mexico
Posted on 6/20/18 at 9:19 am to Placebeaux
Posted on 6/20/18 at 9:19 am to Placebeaux
BUILD
THE
WALL
THE
WALL
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Posted on 6/20/18 at 9:21 am to Placebeaux
Don't underestimate Mexico's military.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 9:22 am to Placebeaux
That is not a good idea. You have no idea how much that would cost and how many lives it would sacrifice. Think before you say stupid shite.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 9:24 am to Placebeaux
That won't happen, and I'll tell you why.
The USA is already conquered and will never take any significant action to secure its own national sovereignty.
The military forces of the USA serve a different purpose now, more of a "Secure the Globe" mission.
The USA is already conquered and will never take any significant action to secure its own national sovereignty.
The military forces of the USA serve a different purpose now, more of a "Secure the Globe" mission.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 9:27 am to bamarep
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The gangs (ms-13) originated in El Salvador you idiot.
While I don't agree with him that "These refugees are escaping a gang culture that originated in LA.", MS-13 originated in LA. The "13" is a reference to the Sureno's, a southern CA gang.
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The Mara Salvatrucha gang originated in Los Angeles, set up in the 1980s by Salvadoran immigrants in the city's Pico-Union neighborhood who immigrated to the United States after the Central American civil wars of the 1980s.
Originally, the gang's main purpose was to protect Salvadoran immigrants from other, more established gangs of Los Angeles, who were predominantly composed of Mexicans and African-Americans.
Many Mara Salvatrucha gang members from the Los Angeles area have been deported after being arrested. For example, Jose Abrego, a high-ranking member, was deported four times. As a result of these deportations, members of MS-13 have recruited more members in their home countries.The Los Angeles Times contends that deportation policies have contributed to the size and influence of the gang both in the United States and in Central America. According to the 2009 National Gang Threat Assessment, "The gang is estimated to have 30,000 to 50,000 members and associate members worldwide, 8,000 to 10,000 of whom reside in the United States.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 9:29 am to Tiger Prawn
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BUILD THE WALL
That wall will never be completed. As I said, the USA will never again take any significant action to secure its own national sovereignty.
As for "going to war with Mexico" -- good idea. The USA need not conquer Mexico. Securing a 5 mile buffer zone inside of Mexican territory would be sufficient for establishment of Migrant Processing Centers on Mexican territory. That's legal under International Law because Mexico is either permitting or cannot stop this invasion of the USA from south of the border. The USA indeed does have the right under International Law to protect its own national sovereignty. Problem is this: the people currently in charge of charting the destiny of the USA don't care to do so.
Solution? Begin exploration of possible future dissolution of the Union. Establish a new country that will protect its national sovereignty and be faithful to the US Constitution.
This post was edited on 6/20/18 at 9:31 am
Posted on 6/20/18 at 9:29 am to Placebeaux
do you know how to defeat the drug cartels without sacrificing thousands of soldiers?
you legalize all drugs.
you legalize all drugs.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 9:29 am to Placebeaux
For Menudo alone we should have invaded long ago... 
Posted on 6/20/18 at 9:30 am to Champagne
Sadly I think you're right
Posted on 6/20/18 at 9:33 am to rebeloke
Think of the money the US could make. Mexico has loads of natural resources. We need to go Cortez on that arse.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 9:37 am to Placebeaux
We are at war, it just hasn’t been declared.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 9:48 am to NikolaiJakov
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I wouldn't be against our military going in and wiping out cartels...
The cartels are woven into the fabric of the local society and would melt into the landscape the moment strong enemy military force presents itself, just as a geurrilla army would, just as the Viet Cong did. As such, there's no practical way to go in there, do the job and get out within a conventional time frame.
An UNCONVENTIONAL warfare approach would entail sending US Special Forces covertly in-country in ones and twos over the course of several years. THEY would weave themselves into the fabric of the society and they would infiltrate the cartels as full members of the cartels. Then they could complete their direct action missions from that platform. Now, we aren't going to do that, are we? No serious person would suggest we spend 5 or more years infiltrating the gangs to do that because that approach would not guarantee success.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 9:57 am to Wtodd
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I too wouldn't mind sending in SOF to kill all the cartels
You'd think the Mexican government would be on board with coordinating these types of operations which could build good will between our governments and help rid them of the criminal corruption that will forever keep them in a backwards condition. But as you mentioned, their crooked political class is not necessarily interested in elevating Mexico into the 21st century of civilized states but more so with lining their own pockets.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 10:02 am to TBoy
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You know who else invaded neighboring countries?
Mexico?
Guatemala?
Posted on 6/20/18 at 10:06 am to Placebeaux
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The drug cartels, who run the country
If only there was some other war, that we could end, that would make the cartels virtually powerless........
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