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re: What's the Poli Board's honest feelings about this immigrant kids situation?

Posted on 6/20/18 at 9:40 am to
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
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Posted on 6/20/18 at 9:40 am to
Could it be that the timing was dictated by the fact that this new policy just went into effect?
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/20/18 at 9:40 am to
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But not one of the millions of attorneys have produced a law which mandates separation of families at the border.
What law mandates separation of the child from his drunk mother in a DUI arrest?

Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 9:43 am to
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Lol, he just got frog marched out of the fbi building yesterday and is now facing disciplinary proceedings. This was after he was kicked off of the Meuller team for bias and his lover was forced out of the fbi all together.

I don't have to show you a damn thing


So much for your grand conspiracy

A more accurate summary of the events in report: two or three FBI agents are facing consequences for acting extremely unprofessional
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39766 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 9:45 am to
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Except that ICE has already issued a statement detailing the policy. So, exactly the opposite of what you said.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
24016 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 9:47 am to
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I thought you claimed to be conservative? Why would something that deters illegal behavior be so offensive to yoh?


I have strong views about control of migrant workers because the uncontrolled flow of migrant workers has harmed the opportunities for labor here, especially in the manual skilled trades. We absolutely must do what we can to control the use of undocumented migrant labor.

But this crap of a policy is wrong.

We can control undocumented migrant movement without dehumanizing and inflicting suffering. This kind of thing is against basic morality and my Catholic faith.
Posted by MrBiriwa
Biriwa,OH
Member since Nov 2010
7116 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 9:47 am to
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I don't care. They're illegals. If I break the law w/ my kids in the car, they're liable to separate us & take me to jail


Only diff is your kids aren't flown halfway across the country never to be seen again.

They have no plan to reunite these kids with their parent on this side of the border or the other side. No one should be in favor of that
Posted by CptRusty
Basket of Deplorables
Member since Aug 2011
11740 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 9:49 am to
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A more accurate summary of the events in report: two or three FBI agents are facing consequences for acting extremely unprofessional


In this same vein, a summary of Hiroshima might be: a couple of rocks get forced together, causing heat and light. Some buildings damaged.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
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Posted on 6/20/18 at 9:50 am to
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Posted by CptRusty
Basket of Deplorables
Member since Aug 2011
11740 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 9:50 am to
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But this crap of a policy is wrong. We can control undocumented migrant movement without dehumanizing and inflicting suffering.


What, specifically, would you change to address this?
Posted by ELVIS U
Member since Feb 2007
9965 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 9:50 am to
It's manufactured, but it fits their narrative better than anything else they've tried and has bad optics. I don't think the masses are buying it though. It's not like we left our country and found families to separate. I give it two more days before the next crisis begins.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52833 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 9:51 am to
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Show me where he made actual bad decisions influenced by a political agenda.


oh, c'mom.


Are you telling me that if a Police Chief whose white officer was involved in one of those shootings of a black man were to have been found to have texted racist things....we'd all just say "we can trust him to investigate this event. It was his PERSONAL stuff that was bad. He is a professional and is not compromised"


I wish I were a chiropractor because you fricks are gonna need some help from all the bending and twisting you are doing.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73558 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 9:51 am to
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All that they have is a new policy, enacted in April of this year, to charge everyone at the border with a federal crime as a pretense for taking their children. We have been told also by the administration that this is to make them think twice about coming, meaning it is intentional.
Obammy did it as well.

Achieving these gains in border security is no doubt a result of a combination of factors
including increased manpower, technology implementation, and appropriate consequences. A
key part bas been the implementation of Operation Streamline, the program seeking to reduce
recidivism by expeditiously prosecuting those entering or reentering ilJegally under a "zero
tolerance" approach. The Yuma County Sheriffs Office cites 100 percent prosecution as a
shared goal of a partnership including federal, state, and local law enforcement agencies and
cites Operation Streamline as an element in the recent success in reducing illegal crossings.
However, the Sheriffs Office recently related that they had been informed that the United States
Attorney's Office for the District of Arizona wilJ cease prosecuting those apprehended crossing
the border illegally for the first time.
LINK
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 6/20/18 at 9:52 am to
No

Posted by TigerinKorea
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 6/20/18 at 9:52 am to
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 6/20/18 at 9:56 am to
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A more accurate summary of the events in report: two or three FBI agents are facing consequences for acting extremely unprofessional



Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48709 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 9:59 am to
IMHO, this is a most brilliant Leftist strategy for attacking Trump. I suggested this very strategy months ago when the news of "The Caravan" started. I suggested that the Left engineer a massive invasion of illegals from south of the border in order to peg Trump as either ineffective or monstrous or both.

These particular attacks have Trump on the ropes and have erased all good news arising from all things Trump. IMHO, this new attack might have been better being launched at the end of this summer, but, the Left had to get the good news about NK and the GDP out of here. This contrived story has done exactly that.

Now all that remains for the Left is to block any and all of Trump's efforts to fix this problem. This contrived issue MUST stay on the front page.

Didn't Sy Hersh recently say that the best issue for the Left right now is this one, given Trump's success?

PS I know that some feel anger towards me for my ideas that the USA is already conquered, will not exist in 200 years and that some of us should explore how a secession might work -- I apologize if I have hurt your feelings or offended anyone in any way.
This post was edited on 6/20/18 at 10:02 am
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39766 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 10:04 am to
Let's unpack this.

Two investigations. Same investigators.

Investigation 1: Multiple felonies uncovered.
Classified material found on paedophiles computer and confirmed breeches of classified materiel by foreign actors. Exoneration drafted prior to completion of the investigation with criminal terminology scrubbed from the initial draft. Witnesses allowed to destroy subpoenaed evidence. Law enforcement takes unprecedented step of making prosecutorial declaration of innocence publicly.

Investigation 2: no criminal activity whatsoever found.
Spies implanted in target's campaign. Phone lines tapped, investigators talk openly of "stopping" subject from being elected, incessant leaking to leftist news agencies, political unmasking of Americans without due process. Warrants requested based on unconfirmed and dubious opposition research. Judges mislead in order to obtain warrants. Several investigators forced to leave in shame. Head of FBI fired and deputy director under criminal referral.

But you don't see a problem here. This is why the left is losing... you can't be honest about anything. You think people forgot your fricking screeches of recusal during the launch of the SC? Now those standards are suddenly gone, and it's ok to have, at best, "extremely unprofessional" people investigating the president of the United States for treason.
This post was edited on 6/20/18 at 10:07 am
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
24016 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 10:07 am to
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The entire law, written in 2002 that has been enforced by two previous administrations up until today, you moron.


So you post the law on what to do with unaccompanied minors, which is not what we are talking about. You don't read too good, do you?
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52833 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 10:09 am to
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So you post the law on what to do with unaccompanied minors, which is not what we are talking about.


I'll say it again:

Once the "parents" are incarcerated for their CRIMES....the minors become "unaccompanied".

Posted by TigerinKorea
Member since Aug 2014
8329 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 10:12 am to
God, you are dense. I know the previous poster explained it to you, but to get it though your thick skull (which seems to be among the thickest), I will spell it out for you again.

Once the illegal parent is detained, the child becomes unaccompanied.
This post was edited on 6/20/18 at 10:14 am
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