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re: An attempted unbiased analysis of Kirby Smart & Ed Orgeron in their first 2 years

Posted on 5/2/18 at 5:29 pm to
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37533 posts
Posted on 5/2/18 at 5:29 pm to
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You know why we have to go back to "prehistoric" stats to show how he was as a full time head coach of his own program? Because no one would hire him to do that job for their program until we did!

But you know what, I'll go on record AGAIN and state that simply being bad as a head coach at Ole Miss SHOULD NOT have automatically been a career ender for him. But...it should have required him to go back to a smaller school in a smaller conference and EARN his way back to a Power 5 type job. Had he gone to some small school, built it up, turned it into "HIS" program and built a winner, then maybe folks could have said, "Well...maybe ole Miss was a fluke?" If he then parlayed that into a mid-major type job and performed admirably, THEN he may have upgraded to a job like the LSU gig.

But instead, he did none of that hard shite. Instead, he used his local influence and who he knows into being awarded a job he was not qualified for. So yeah, in that respect, he's REALLY fricking Louisiana, all right.

Now...I'd have NEVER wanted him as the HC at LSU, regardless of what he did at a smaller school...but that's because I dislike the man and don't trust him AT ALL. I disliked him at Ole Miss and didn't suddenly start liking him because he stretched on an LSU Nike coaches shirt. But...had he done all that and EARNED the right to at least be in the discussion, I'd NEVER EVER claim that he was unqualified for this job, as he would have shown based on his ACTUAL RESULTS that he had grown past his days at Ole Miss.

But he didn't, so I'll continue to point out that he's unqualified and should never have been considered for the full time gig here.





I'm getting tired of responding with "preach" and "amen" gifs to your posts, but whatever.. It deserves it.

Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 5/3/18 at 7:26 am to
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Freauxzen
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I'm getting tired of responding with "preach" and "amen" gifs to your posts, but whatever.. It deserves it.




This entire topic makes me feel insane. There's no good argument for his even being interviewed for this job without him having gone and ACTUALLY RUN his own program elsewhere and EARNED a second chance. It's not that his stint at Ole Miss was so bad he forever did not deserve the shot at redemption...it's that he had no real interest in taking the harder road in actually EARNING that redemption.

He simply weaseled his way into it, then had the fricking nerve to get pissy with people when they suggested he had not earned the job.

Like I said...I've never liked the man and I never will...but I'd have respected his effort had he gone and tried to earn the respect of the college football world after he tanked at Ole Miss. It would have never made him a good man in my eyes, but it might have made him appear to be at least a competent head coaching candidate.

Instead, he remains neither until he does something on the field that changes the coaching part...and so far, that looks unlikely.
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