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The reason you can’t make a deal with a Muslim government
Posted on 4/30/18 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 4/30/18 at 2:56 pm
The Quran describes Allah as the best deceiver there is, a liar who is not above using the same evil and wicked schemes of his opponents.
For example, the Quran calls Allah a makr, in fact the best makr there is:
But they (the Jews) were deceptive, and Allah was deceptive, for Allah is the best of deceivers (Wamakaroo wamakara Allahu waAllahu khayru al-makireena)! S. 3:54; cf. 8:30
Other texts that identify Allah as a makr include:
Are they then secure from Allah's deception (makra Allahi)? None deemeth himself secure from Allah's deception (makra Allahi) save folk that perish. S. 7:99
So they schemed a scheme: and We schemed a scheme (Wamakaroo makran wamakarna makran), while they perceived not. S. 27:50
Other texts that identify Allah as a makr include:
Are they then secure from Allah's deception (makra Allahi)? None deemeth himself secure from Allah's deception (makra Allahi) save folk that perish. S. 7:99
So they schemed a scheme: and We schemed a scheme (Wamakaroo makran wamakarna makran), while they perceived not. S. 27:50
The word for deception/deceiver/scheme is makr. The lexical sources define the term as:
Miim-Kaf-Ra = To practice deceit or guile or circumvention, practice evasion or elusion, to plot, to exercise art or craft or cunning, act with policy, practice stratagem.
Who could/would trust a people who want to emulate this?
For example, the Quran calls Allah a makr, in fact the best makr there is:
But they (the Jews) were deceptive, and Allah was deceptive, for Allah is the best of deceivers (Wamakaroo wamakara Allahu waAllahu khayru al-makireena)! S. 3:54; cf. 8:30
Other texts that identify Allah as a makr include:
Are they then secure from Allah's deception (makra Allahi)? None deemeth himself secure from Allah's deception (makra Allahi) save folk that perish. S. 7:99
So they schemed a scheme: and We schemed a scheme (Wamakaroo makran wamakarna makran), while they perceived not. S. 27:50
Other texts that identify Allah as a makr include:
Are they then secure from Allah's deception (makra Allahi)? None deemeth himself secure from Allah's deception (makra Allahi) save folk that perish. S. 7:99
So they schemed a scheme: and We schemed a scheme (Wamakaroo makran wamakarna makran), while they perceived not. S. 27:50
The word for deception/deceiver/scheme is makr. The lexical sources define the term as:
Miim-Kaf-Ra = To practice deceit or guile or circumvention, practice evasion or elusion, to plot, to exercise art or craft or cunning, act with policy, practice stratagem.
Who could/would trust a people who want to emulate this?
This post was edited on 4/30/18 at 2:58 pm
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Posted on 4/30/18 at 3:02 pm to Eli Goldfinger
And they smell bad.
Posted on 4/30/18 at 3:02 pm to Eli Goldfinger
And I thought Mohammed marrying a 9 year old girl was bad...
Posted on 4/30/18 at 3:05 pm to Eli Goldfinger
Taqiyya
Posted on 4/30/18 at 3:30 pm to Eli Goldfinger
Muslims are only as truthful as it takes to preserve and spread Islam. Lying for the sake of Islam is encouraged, if necessary.
Posted on 4/30/18 at 4:53 pm to FooManChoo
quote:
Islam
Is a cancer.
Posted on 4/30/18 at 5:27 pm to Eli Goldfinger
If you’re referring to the Iran deal, that deal as a whole was a mistake from the beginning.
But I’d like to point out something about your whole post. It’s copied and pasted from somewhere. Usually that specific article is on some harder core Christianianty is the way Islam is the devil sites. Not sure where you got it from, but just thought you might want to know it’s a really poor translation of Arabic sited as Islam is the devil.
For example.
So in Surah 3:54, the quoted text, it’s referring to when the Jews killed Jesus. The Koran is saying that Jesus did not die like the Bible says only that god made the Jews think he did. And gods plans are better than the Jews.
Some translations are:
And (the unbelievers) plotted and planned, and Allah too planned, and the best of planners is Allah.
So if you look at it in context god simply outschemed the Jews. Which should be easy for god.
The rest of your post and the translations are pretty similar.
Oh and it use usually determines how it’s translated and to reiterate, those translations have been proven to be shite
But I’d like to point out something about your whole post. It’s copied and pasted from somewhere. Usually that specific article is on some harder core Christianianty is the way Islam is the devil sites. Not sure where you got it from, but just thought you might want to know it’s a really poor translation of Arabic sited as Islam is the devil.
For example.
quote:
But they (the Jews) were deceptive, and Allah was deceptive, for Allah is the best of deceivers.
So in Surah 3:54, the quoted text, it’s referring to when the Jews killed Jesus. The Koran is saying that Jesus did not die like the Bible says only that god made the Jews think he did. And gods plans are better than the Jews.
Some translations are:
And (the unbelievers) plotted and planned, and Allah too planned, and the best of planners is Allah.
So if you look at it in context god simply outschemed the Jews. Which should be easy for god.
The rest of your post and the translations are pretty similar.
Oh and it use usually determines how it’s translated and to reiterate, those translations have been proven to be shite
Posted on 4/30/18 at 5:36 pm to Dead End
quote:
Islam Is a cancer.
Time for some radiation therapy?
Posted on 4/30/18 at 5:46 pm to Eli Goldfinger
The Iranians say the same thing about the Americans. There is a letter to Rouhani where Khameinei wrote that he expected America to be dishonest about the deal.
Posted on 4/30/18 at 5:59 pm to Eli Goldfinger
Absolutely...Saudi Arabia should be at the top of the least trustful list. I guess Jordan would be last?
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