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The Perjury trap. No matter what Trump says he will be charged with it.

Posted on 4/11/18 at 8:35 pm
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 4/11/18 at 8:35 pm
It's at the judgement of the prosecutor. If Trump tells the truth, and Billy Bob's story does not line up with it it's 100% left up to the prosecutor on who to believe.


Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
65271 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 8:36 pm to
Huh? Context?
Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
15248 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 8:37 pm to
a prosecutor can't charge a sitting president with perjury or any other crime. Only the HoR can indict a sitting president.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 8:40 pm to
There's no trap if you don't lie.
Posted by starsandstripes
Georgia
Member since Nov 2017
11897 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 8:42 pm to
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Huh? Context?


The idea of Trump being questioned by Mueller. It's called a perjury trap because there are ambiguous elements to the case whereby some crafty questioning can lead someone into a lie - and also - because accounts will vary, person to person, you can tell the truth but if it is contradicted by someone else, a prosecutor can decide the other person is being truthful and that you are not, and thus charge you with perjury.

Trump is likely in a lose-lose situation - that's the point.
Posted by starsandstripes
Georgia
Member since Nov 2017
11897 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 8:43 pm to
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There's no trap if you don't lie.



False.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55443 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 8:43 pm to
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a prosecutor can't charge a sitting president with perjury or any other crime. Only the HoR can indict a sitting president.


I'm not sure where the disconnect is. Am I not being clear?

Muller has 100% charge over this. He can 100% determine that Trump committed perjury. That's not even debatable.

Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
41212 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 8:45 pm to
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There's no trap if you don't lie.

That's not true. You can tell the truth, as you remember it, and if the Feds have a statement that conflicts with your remembering the truth, it's sufficient to sustain a perjury charge. There's a reason why interviews with the Feds aren't recorded. It's to increase the likelihood of a process charge.
This post was edited on 4/11/18 at 8:45 pm
Posted by starsandstripes
Georgia
Member since Nov 2017
11897 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 8:45 pm to
quote:

a prosecutor can't charge a sitting president with perjury or any other crime. Only the HoR can indict a sitting president.



Yes, and then the Senate adjudicates it and in the current political climate if Mueller issues a report saying POTUS committed perjury - what are the odds they critically examine that charge versus blindly accepting it as they virtue signal their #resist street cred?
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
94604 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 8:45 pm to
Hes never going to talk with mueller

Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55443 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 8:45 pm to
quote:

Huh? Context?



I gave context. If Trump interviews with Mueller, it is Mueller's choice to determine if Trump commits perjury.

Comey has interviewed. It's Trump vs Comey and who ever Comey told the story to.

Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 8:47 pm to
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There's no trap if you don't lie.

Bless your heart.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55443 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 8:47 pm to
quote:

Trump is likely in a lose-lose situation - that's the point.



It's not even that. He could be tight lipped and Mueller find him to have committed perjury.

Posted by Kickadawgitfeelsgood
Lafayette LA
Member since Nov 2005
14090 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 8:47 pm to
It could never be because he lies all the time
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 8:48 pm to
quote:

Muller has 100% charge over this. He can 100% determine that Trump committed perjury. That's not even debatable.


And he can't charge him with a single thing. Is that clear?
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
23061 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 8:48 pm to
quote:

There's no trap if you don't lie.



Trump embellishes a lot. That Is his biggest risk
Posted by roaniemacaroni70
north Iowa
Member since Mar 2018
88 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 8:50 pm to
Cam Mueller compel the president to testify? Or appear for questioning, however you prefer?

What is he going to do to a sitting president for not appearing; throw him in jail?
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
113116 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 8:51 pm to
Only if he's under oath.

His lawyers are retarded if they let him even talk to Mueller.
Posted by djmicrobe
Planet Earth
Member since Jan 2007
4970 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 8:52 pm to
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There's no trap if you don't lie.

Double False. Fake news.
If you tell the truth to the prosecutor, and a "witness" says something else, it is up to the prosecutor to choose which statement he wants to believe.
It has nothing to do with the truth.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
21970 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 8:56 pm to
If I were being interviewed by a SC, every answer would be I don't recall. If they interviewed me for 5 hours I would say I can't recall for 5 hours
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