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Byron York: If Mueller didn't charge Flynn/Manafort with collusion,then who was colluding?
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:41 pm
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All those charges, and none alleging that any of these men, some of them at the highest levels of the Trump campaign, took part in any collusion, or coordination, or conspiracy between the campaign and Russia.
"I can't imagine that there would have been collusion or conspiracy with the Russians that Michael Flynn didn't know about," said Sol Wisenberg, a former prosecutor with the office of independent counsel Kenneth Starr. "If you're trying to make a collusion case and you are Mueller, you're trying to get someone to plead to the crime you're trying to prove."
McCarthy has written much the same. "When a prosecutor has a cooperator who was an accomplice in a major criminal scheme, the cooperator is made to plead guilty to the scheme," he wrote last December. "This is critical because it proves the existence of the scheme."
Even Preet Bharara, the New York U.S. attorney fired by Trump and no fan of the president's, said last year, "When we had evidence against somebody and wanted them to flip, we made them plead guilty to every bad act that they had ever done, especially if we were later going to be alleging other people had engaged in that activity as well."
But in the Mueller investigation, it is precisely the people who would most be expected to be part of a collusion scheme who have not been charged with taking part in any such activity.
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Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:42 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
The socialist...
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:53 pm to LSURulzSEC
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If Mueller didn't charge Flynn/Manafort with collusion,then who was colluding?
Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:08 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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: If Mueller didn't charge Flynn/Manafort with collusion,then who was colluding?
Has the investigation been extended to include the DNC, Hillary and the lop-eared Kenyan?
Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:15 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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then who was colluding
Posted on 3/19/18 at 2:37 pm to TheFonz
Yikes.
Is that one of the Guardians from the Green Lantern Corps?
Is that one of the Guardians from the Green Lantern Corps?
Posted on 3/19/18 at 3:31 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
starrs whitewater investigation went on for 4 years and 8 months
Posted on 3/19/18 at 3:39 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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As the former prosecutor Andrew McCarthy points out, "there is no such offense in federal law as 'conspiracy against the United States.'" But Mueller's office described their alleged crimes that way, and some media commentators liked the treason-ish sound of the phrase.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 3:41 pm to Iosh
Manafort was charged with conspiracy to defraud the United States. There is no "collusion" law on record to charge him with.
Flynn wasn't charged with any of this because he chose to cooperate.
Flynn wasn't charged with any of this because he chose to cooperate.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 3:44 pm to Iosh
That McCarthy piece is weird. He also implies that pleading targets down in exchange for information on other targets is somehow against DOJ code.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 3:46 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
The DNC is the only thing that comes to mind for me
Posted on 3/19/18 at 3:47 pm to TigerDoc
The McCarthy piece is only weird if you think of him as a dispassionate legal expert. If you think of him as a hack pretending to forget every view he held on surveillance law, prosecutorial power, or Trump himself prior to 2017 in order to put the most professional possible spin on whatever Trump farts onto Twitter that morning, it makes perfect sense.
This post was edited on 3/19/18 at 3:48 pm
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