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re: Trump imposing tariffs on all steel, aluminum imports; exempts Mexico and Canada for now

Posted on 3/8/18 at 4:22 pm to
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119031 posts
Posted on 3/8/18 at 4:22 pm to
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If we are concerned about Chinese steel with respect to our national security, then a blanket tariff which affects allies and rivals alike doesn't make sense to me.


Let me copy and paste what I wrote earlier:

It appears that the strategy is to force countries to show that they are not passing through Chinese steel and aluminum. We already have good control of Mexico and Canada due to our close and long time relationship so it makes sense to give them exemptions right now (plus NAFTA re-negotiations).

The remaining countries will have to show they are not passing through Chinese steel and aluminum. When the do, they get exemptions.

That's a MUCH easier strategy than trying to track down every offending country and singling them out. Make them do the work.
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 3/8/18 at 4:25 pm to
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Let me copy and paste what I wrote earlier:


What a long and wasteful mechanism for solving a relatively simple "problem" that's self inflicted to begin with.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 3/8/18 at 4:26 pm to
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We already have good control of Mexico and Canada
Dude, this flies in the face of your reasoning for wanting the tariff with Mexico last week. You realize this, right?

Did Mexico prove they're dealing honestly in the past few days?
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 3/8/18 at 4:31 pm to
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Let me copy and paste what I wrote earlier:

It appears that the strategy is to force countries to show that they are not passing through Chinese steel and aluminum

yeah, you've still got some explaining to do on that one, as the only "pass through" you've identified is NAFTA
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 3/8/18 at 4:31 pm to
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We already have good control of Mexico and Canada due to our close and long time relationship so it makes sense to give them exemptions right now (plus NAFTA re-negotiations).


So steel isn't a national security concern enough to where it isn't dangled as bait in a free trade agreement? Doesn't that undermine the national security angle? Given that an 80% capacity utilization rate is the minimum we need for national security, we need to improve production domestically to 91 mmt from 80 mmt. I fail to see how giving immediate exceptions to neighbors helps that either, if the goal is to improve domestic production.

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That's a MUCH easier strategy than trying to track down every offending country and singling them out. Make them do the work.



Even though the steel production numbers from our largest trading partners have remained consistent, in the Japanese and German case, since the 1980's? You're acting like those industries aren't affected by Chinese dumping, and aren't similarly concerned.
This post was edited on 3/8/18 at 4:32 pm
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