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re: Russian Interference in the election?

Posted on 2/16/18 at 1:30 pm to
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 2/16/18 at 1:30 pm to
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The investigation is not over but the "collusion" argument as it pertains to hacking the election is toast.
No. But I'd be interested in seeing you string together a cogent argument and make that case. Since you're so sure it should be a pretty simple exercise. I would caution that assuming that the collusion case is closed based upon paragraph 6 of this indictment requires you to make a number of assumptions you aren't in a position to make incl: 1. These 16 individuals/entities are the final indictments in the information ops line of inquiry and 2. There are no other suspected instances of Trump team-Russia coordination in the other lines of inquiry. So we're throwing out Flynn, Papadopoulous, the Trump tower meeting, the sharing of actual "hacked" information from the DNC and other intrusions, and whatever else might be revealed by the financial crimes line of the investigation (including Gates, Manafort, and other Trump-linked persons and entities).

And no one is saying the collusion piece is there. But saying it's been ruled out by today's indictments seems a bit silly, no?
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
114297 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 1:32 pm to
Calm down

The language is there for you to read. Honest Bob and his team wrote it. A.) Russian hackers never revealed their identities
B.) "associated with the campaign" = "unwitting".

If you want to imagine more Russian boogeymen and talk about people who have already been indicted, feel free. If you have a problem with the special counsel, email Honest Bob.
This post was edited on 2/16/18 at 1:34 pm
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
104112 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 1:32 pm to
So, basically the theory is, there's something else out there, but we needed to get this out and moving now? Why? Is the bad shite you're suspecting completely different than with these folks? Was this just the Russian JV team?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
432492 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 1:34 pm to
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. But I'd be interested in seeing you string together a cogent argument and make that case.

i'd love to hear you string together a cogent argument to explain how there was actual collusion greater than knowledge

Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
19331 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 1:34 pm to
They indicted Russians for what you do here every day, trolling their asses off. Better hope honest Bob doesn’t take a peek at your post history.
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