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re: Church Celebrates Transgender Pastor's Transition With 'Renaming' Ceremony
Posted on 2/12/18 at 12:42 pm to Roger Klarvin
Posted on 2/12/18 at 12:42 pm to Roger Klarvin
quote:You go on to equate what Luther said to what Hitler said/did when by your own admission the two men had different contexts to draw upon. Luther didn't see people in terms of "race" like Hitler did. He only cared about the truth of the faith, and he saw Jews the same way he saw papists (catholics), anabaptists (protestant "baptists", as we call them today) and even "Turks" (Muslims). In his mind, there were only two types of people: those who believed like him and those who didn't.
The concept of race didn't even exist yet in the 16th century
He didn't hate Jews for being Jews (racially). He hated their beliefs and wanted them to repent and believe in Jesus Christ. It's the same attitude he had towards everyone else during his time. He wasn't an antisemitic as we view the term today, but he was an equal opportunity offender of all faiths contrary to his own, including Judaism.
quote:Execution? For blasphemy, perhaps, as was common with the battles between the protestants and the catholics. The quotes you provided about razing houses, schools, and synagogues were all within the context of their religious faith. Luther read the Talmud where it severely blasphemed Jesus and he took such offense to it that he (over)reacted by wanting them expelled from his homeland. He didn't advocate Jews to be killed for existing (like Hitler did), but he wanted them to repent of their blasphemous religion and believe in Jesus. They would have been warmly welcomed by Luther if they abandoned religious Judaism and embraced Luther's beliefs.
By his last decade of life Luther was advocating for the exile or execution of every Jew in Europe. If that sounds familiar it should. You can play word games all you'd like.
quote:Speculation is fun.
Nah, he probably just had neurosyphilis in his later years. But then again so did Pope Julius.
quote:Luther did have many hold-over beliefs from Catholicism but so do Protestants today. Protestants aren't completely dissimilar from Roman Catholics.
He asked for a priest to conduct confession and last rites. Now this isn't surprising as, contrary to Protestant belief, Martin Luther always believed in the vast majority of catholic doctrine and trusted in the sacraments. What is odd is that it was the first time in years he'd done so.
I've read a lot of biographies and works of Luther (including some from Roman Catholics) and never heard that he returned to Catholicism or that he requested a priest on his death bed to give him absolution. I had to look up this claim and even found a Roman Catholic forum disputing it.
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