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re: Chronic Wasting Disease confirmed in a Mississippi White-tailed Deer
Posted on 2/10/18 at 8:14 am to Cowboyfan89
Posted on 2/10/18 at 8:14 am to Cowboyfan89
Just to continue the debate, here are a few talking points.
True, and I totally agree with this approach. People should not be able to capture wild/native deer. In turn, just the opposite is illegal. You can't turn deer out of a fence onto wild ground. Does both happen, you bet.
Also, true. And most, if not all have to be CWD compliant with the state. I'm trying to confirm that right now.
This is the illegal part. Any animal of the Cervidae family can not be transported across state lines. That has been shut down. You will go to jail and you will not collect $200.
Now consider this. There are no reports of CWD cases in the state of Louisiana to my knowledge. So logically speaking if there are no reports of CWD.....and you can't bring deer across state lines then where will CWD come from?
Now let's be more realistic, could people illegally just bring breeder deer in from out of state? Sure but why risk their herd and financial investment? I mean if you want northern deer that bad, there are cheaper methods to introduce those genetics these days without transporting live deer.
So I continue to ask where will CWD come from? Hunters now must prepare out of state kills in a manner that reduces CWD. Does it eliminate the possibility that CWD may come home with them, NO it does not and the fact is that more deer come across state lines by hunters bringing in wild deer than any other method.
In addition to hunters, what about migratory birds such as Black Vultures, raptors and owls that feed on these northern animals and then fly south for the winter? Are they bringing CWD here? Who knows?
The point of this long response is to say there is more to the story than just a knee jerk reaction to high fence operations being the culprit of CWD. Do they play a part, yes, but they are not the only thing to consider in negative press about CWD.
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You can't put up a high fence on your property in Louisiana and trap all of the native deer inside. It's illegal.
True, and I totally agree with this approach. People should not be able to capture wild/native deer. In turn, just the opposite is illegal. You can't turn deer out of a fence onto wild ground. Does both happen, you bet.
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You have to remove them, and bring in deer from another high fence operation
Also, true. And most, if not all have to be CWD compliant with the state. I'm trying to confirm that right now.
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possibly from out of state
This is the illegal part. Any animal of the Cervidae family can not be transported across state lines. That has been shut down. You will go to jail and you will not collect $200.
Now consider this. There are no reports of CWD cases in the state of Louisiana to my knowledge. So logically speaking if there are no reports of CWD.....and you can't bring deer across state lines then where will CWD come from?
Now let's be more realistic, could people illegally just bring breeder deer in from out of state? Sure but why risk their herd and financial investment? I mean if you want northern deer that bad, there are cheaper methods to introduce those genetics these days without transporting live deer.
So I continue to ask where will CWD come from? Hunters now must prepare out of state kills in a manner that reduces CWD. Does it eliminate the possibility that CWD may come home with them, NO it does not and the fact is that more deer come across state lines by hunters bringing in wild deer than any other method.
In addition to hunters, what about migratory birds such as Black Vultures, raptors and owls that feed on these northern animals and then fly south for the winter? Are they bringing CWD here? Who knows?
The point of this long response is to say there is more to the story than just a knee jerk reaction to high fence operations being the culprit of CWD. Do they play a part, yes, but they are not the only thing to consider in negative press about CWD.
Posted on 2/10/18 at 8:20 am to Manchac Man
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Where will CWD come from
It will come from people that will continue to bring carcasses and even live deer across state lines. Just because it's illegal doesn't mean it will stop
Drugs are illegal also
Posted on 2/10/18 at 8:24 am to Manchac Man
Posted on 2/10/18 at 8:36 am to Manchac Man
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This is the illegal part. Any animal of the Cervidae family can not be transported across state lines. That has been shut down. You will go to jail and you will not collect $200.
The cervid ban does not, to my knowledge, apply to live deer. The ban specifically states that the transport of carcasses into Louisiana is prohibited. A "carcass" is the dead body of an animal.
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The point of this long response is to say there is more to the story than just a knee jerk reaction to high fence operations being the culprit of CWD. Do they play a part, yes, but they are not the only thing to consider in negative press about CWD.
Sure, but they are a major part. It's no coincidence that the majority of the isolated cases of CWD have arisen along side cases in captive breeding facilities.
There are very few free-range populations on that map outside of the core distribution of CWD that don't correspond to a dot, which indicates a captive facility with CWD.
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