I've already said that we wouldn't know before hand...which would be the very same issue for promoting ANY well thought of coordinator at any level, right?

So if we are not going to find a PROVEN successful head coach (and that clearly was not a precedent when hiring Orgeron as anyone who can understand basic math knows) and we look to an up and coming coordinator, then arguably the best DC in the country would have to be on the short list...right?

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Not charismatic, not a great recruiter, so what would make him fit to lead a big program?

Charismatic is overblown. Belechick is as charismatic as an ingrown toenail and Saban is not much more then that. From everything we hear from players they like and respect his knowledge for the game and that in itself is magnetic to someone wanting to learn and improve. Recruiting is important, but who knows how well he could close when running his own program with assistants that are themselves proven recruiters.

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For the record, I’d take him over O, but neither are qualified for the LSU HC job imo.

Orgeron certainly is not. We hired a coach with a sub .500 career coaching record to lead a program that has won 2 national titles since 2003 and played for a third. It's almost impossible to type that ou and still believe I'm awake. Aranda is qualified but unproven. Tons of prestigious program have and will continue to pull up coordinators to run their programs. No hire is fool proof...but you hire the best available coach and then see what happens. As Aranda is a Top 3 DC in the nation now, he's unquestionably qualified to run his own Power 5 program should that be the direction he want to go.

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Posted by memphis tiger

Memphis, TN

Member since Feb 2006

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Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:49 am to GeauxTigerTM

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So if we are not going to find a PROVEN successful head coach

Prove successful coaches have changed jobs and failed.

Also, coordinators who were not "proven head coaches" have taken big time jobs and won. Just look at Jimbo, his fist HC job was Florida State and he won a NC. And look at Kirby Smart. A lot of people on this board laughed at that hire and said he wasn't really a coach at Bama because Nick coached the defense. Well, in his second year at his FIRST head coach gig, he was one play away from beating Nick for a national title.

Point is, being "proven" is often overrated when it comes to hiring a guy.

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Posted by LCTFAN

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Member since Mar 2013

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Posted on 2/11/18 at 7:36 am to GeauxTigerTM

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.but you hire the best available coach and then see what happens. As Aranda is a Top 3 DC in the nation now, he's unquestionably qualified to run his own Power 5 program should that be the direction he want to go.

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GeauxTigerTM

Hiring a head coach from within does not always work. You get a guy who is friends with the entire staff that participates in normal employee small talk about the boss and then is promoted to be the boss. None of us know the relationships between these assistant coaches their dynamics.

Aranda may very well be the next Saban but hiring a 2nd coach in a row from within seems to be a questionable move.

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