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SPLC labels Elliot Rodger killings as "alt-right"
Posted on 2/6/18 at 3:53 pm
Posted on 2/6/18 at 3:53 pm
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i think "gender" has more of a solid meaning/definition to the Big Left/progs/Alt-Left than "alt-right" these days
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Elliot Rodger, the 22-year-old who killed six students in the college town of Isla Vista in 2014, was the first "alt-right killer" to strike in recent years, according to a new report from the Southern Poverty Law Center.
The report counts Rodger among 13 alleged alt-right killers whose actions left 43 people dead and more than 60 injured since 2014.
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The list also includes Dylann Roof, the white supremacist convicted of fatally shooting nine black members of a Bible study class in South Carolina in 2015.
i think "gender" has more of a solid meaning/definition to the Big Left/progs/Alt-Left than "alt-right" these days
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Posted on 2/6/18 at 3:56 pm to SlowFlowPro
L O L. This dude was anything but alt-right. If you read his manifesto, he's clearly just a deranged person with some weird skewed version of reality. It's a shame, because he really was a pretty damn talented writer...he could have wrote books...but his obsession with being liked by women and trying to get a girlfriend took over his life.
Posted on 2/6/18 at 3:57 pm to SUB
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L O L. This dude was anything but alt-right. If you read his manifesto, he's clearly just a deranged person with some weird skewed version of reality.
apparently being a beta that's frustrated with women and googling anything related to Nazi Germany makes you "Alt-right"
Posted on 2/6/18 at 3:58 pm to SlowFlowPro
wonder if they classified the black guy that killed innocent white people in the church in Tennessee last year as “alt left”
Posted on 2/6/18 at 4:26 pm to Magician2
it's not even about creating some "equal" tragedy
when your alleged grouping contains Elliot Rodger and Dylan Roof, AND it's allegedly based on politics, then you have a huge concept on your hands.
when your alleged grouping contains Elliot Rodger and Dylan Roof, AND it's allegedly based on politics, then you have a huge concept on your hands.
Posted on 2/6/18 at 4:30 pm to SUB
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This dude was anything but alt-right. If you read his manifesto, he's clearly just a deranged person with some weird skewed version of reality.
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It's a shame, because he really was a pretty damn talented writer.
Posted on 2/6/18 at 4:32 pm to SlowFlowPro
I wouldn’t be surprised if the SPLC was trying to find a way to link right-wing hate groups to the extinction of dinosaurs.
Posted on 2/6/18 at 4:33 pm to SlowFlowPro
I don't think mass killers should be labeled as right or left. They're deranged individuals who could probably have latched onto either way of thinking given certain circumstances.
Posted on 2/6/18 at 4:34 pm to Magician2
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wonder if they classified the black guy that killed innocent white people in the church in Tennessee last year as “alt left”
No chance in Hell.
Southern Poverty Law would never call a black man a racist.
Posted on 2/6/18 at 4:38 pm to buckeye_vol
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I wouldn’t be surprised if the SPLC was trying to find a way to link right-wing hate groups to the extinction of dinosaurs.
#nailedit
Posted on 2/6/18 at 4:40 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Here, I'll do you a solid and put the animating principle of the alt-right in a sentence:
when your alleged grouping contains Elliot Rodger and Dylan Roof, AND it's allegedly based on politics, then you have a huge concept on your hands
There is no such thing as overreaction to cultural liberalism.
That's the alt-right. The notion that cultural liberalism is an existential threat and therefore any reaction to it is justified up to and including mass killing of those who are responsible for propagating it. That's what Rodger thought, that's what Roof thought, and that's what Breivik thought.
I don't really think the SPLC is a particularly useful or trustworthy organization, and I've disagreed with them on a lot, but I don't fault them for this. If you can give me the daylight between this section of Rodger's manifesto and this BlackPigeonSpeaks video, go right ahead. I don't see it.
This post was edited on 2/6/18 at 4:45 pm
Posted on 2/6/18 at 4:41 pm to Dead End
Posted on 2/6/18 at 4:49 pm to Iosh
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There is no such thing as overreaction to cultural liberalism.
i think the over-reliance on Nazi mythology kind of hurts this definition, especially since the beliefs keyed in on and the actual date of the Nazis predate this extreme PC/multiculturalism philosophy
this definition also covers a wide swath of people that are culturally liberal but not the extremist form that many outlets/thinkers want to use as the default "liberalism". that covers Jordan Peterson, Sam Harris, Gad Saad, etc
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If you can give me the daylight between this section of Rodger's manifesto and this BlackPigeonSpeaks video, go right ahead. I don't see it.
i'm not going to defend either, but show me the true connection between those 2 and Dylan Roof. that's the issue
Posted on 2/6/18 at 4:51 pm to SlowFlowPro
The SPLC is such a joke.
Posted on 2/6/18 at 4:51 pm to Iosh
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The notion that cultural liberalism is an existential threat and therefore any reaction to it is justified up to and including mass killing of those who are responsible for propagating it. That's what Rodger thought, that's what Roof thought, and that's what Breivik thought.
That’s some major contorting right there
Posted on 2/6/18 at 4:56 pm to Kentucker
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don't think mass killers should be labeled as right or left. They're deranged individuals who could probably have latched onto either way of thinking given certain circumstances.
Elliot Rogers had Aspergers, was part Asian and was frustrated because he couldn’t get laid
Posted on 2/6/18 at 5:00 pm to SUB
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This dude was anything but alt-right. If you read his manifesto, he's clearly just a deranged person with some weird skewed version of reality.
Your statement contradicts itself
Posted on 2/6/18 at 5:02 pm to SlowFlowPro
SPLC is a sham.
Posted on 2/6/18 at 5:02 pm to TheHumanTornado
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Your statement contradicts itself
I would say cultural Marxist fit his description better
The alt right moniker is as worthless as the word racism or term tea party these days
Posted on 2/6/18 at 5:08 pm to Iosh
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That's the alt-right. The notion that cultural liberalism is an existential threat and therefore any reaction to it is justified up to and including mass killing of those who are responsible for propagating it. That's what Rodger thought
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this section of Rodger's manifesto
I read that section. It has nothing to do with the alt-right or politics at all. It's only about his frustration and characterization of women. It's not even a stretch to equate that writing with the idea that liberalism is a threat; it's just patently false.
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