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Posted on 2/5/18 at 4:02 pm to
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Member since Dec 2009
41356 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 4:02 pm to
Despite what Trump and the jingoist have told you, the American economy is stronger with immigration than without.

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Labor Force Growth: If those who oppose immigration were correct, then Japan, an immigrant-unfriendly country, should be an economic juggernaut. It is not. Japan is facing an economic and demographic crisis. “Japan has the world’s oldest population, as well as a low birth rate and little immigration, but its growth problems go far deeper,” noted a recent analysis by Bloomberg. “In the early 1990s, the country’s postwar growth boom collapsed – decades of deflation followed and Japan started to suffer a shortage of workers.”


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Entrepreneurship: “The contribution of immigrants to human and physical capital formation, entrepreneurship, and innovation are essential to long-run sustained economic growth,” according to the NAS report.


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Human Capital: A similar story can be seen with patents and human capital. “Perhaps even more important than the contribution to labor supply is the infusion by high-skilled immigration of human capital that has boosted the nation’s capacity for innovation and technological change,” reported the National Academy of Sciences. But again, no dollar figure is estimated for this benefit. University of Colorado economist Keith Maskus found that for every 100 international students who earn science or engineering Ph.D.'s from American universities, the nation gains an impressive 62 future patent applications.

The bottom line conclusion: “Innovation carried out by immigrants also has the potential to increase the productivity of natives, very likely raising economic growth per capita,” according to the National Academy of Sciences. “In short, the prospects for long run economic growth in the United States would be considerably dimmed without the contributions of high-skilled immigrants.”


Our workforce is aging. Americans are not having children at a rate that sustains growth for the workforce. We need immigration. You don't like the brown people coming over? Fine. I'd suggest having 10 kids.


Posted by Covingtontiger77
Member since Dec 2015
10537 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 4:08 pm to
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Our workforce is aging. Americans are not having children at a rate that sustains growth for the workforce. We need immigration


You see a bunch of Rhode scholars in there? These are not people from industrialized nations trying to immigrate and start businesses. These are highly unskilled individuals that offer nothing more than the ability to do manual labor

There is a such thing as good immigration and bad.

This would be an example of bad.

I would feel the same if thousands of Europe’s lower class decided to hop on ships and put up shop over here.

The poem people like you hold onto does not apply in 2018.
This post was edited on 2/5/18 at 4:10 pm
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52833 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 4:10 pm to
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We need immigration.


LEGAL...INTELLIGENT (the immigration planning...not the immigrant necessarily)....DOCUMENTED immigration.


Why is this so difficult to grasp?


If we need a kabillion folks....let's get a kabillion DOCUMENTED, LEGAL folks.

Posted by indianswim
Plano, TX
Member since Jan 2010
18888 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 4:16 pm to
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Despite what Trump and the jingoist have told you, the American economy is stronger with immigration than without.



Please try to understand this. I can't think of hardly a person here who is against immigration. What is wrong is illegal immigration, or as the left has so carefully spun it, undocumented citizenship. My grandmother was an immigrant who came here and did everything by the book.

There are some cases with extenuating circumstances. But none that involve 300 people stuffed into 2 trucks trying to cross the border illegally.

Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56945 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 4:17 pm to
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Despite what Trump and the jingoist have told you, the American economy is stronger with immigration than without.



I think most conservatives understand this could be the case in some scenarios. But, it doesn't justify open borders. And, it doesn't justify an immigration policy that's unenforceable.

That's the great thing about an enforceable immigration policy. Congress can modify the immigration policy based on the country's needs at any given time.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29200 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 4:41 pm to
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Despite what Trump and the jingoist have told you, the American economy is stronger with immigration than without


It would be stronger if 70% of the million immigrants we take a year legally weren't allowed to be here simply because their cousin won a diversity visa from a shithole country.

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Our workforce is aging. Americans are not having children at a rate that sustains growth for the workforce. We need immigration. You don't like the brown people coming over? Fine. I'd suggest having 10 kids.


So let's take in tens of millions immigrants from the 25 poorest countries in the world every year from now on. In about 30 years our population will pass China's. Seems like a brilliant plan.
Posted by Rougarou13
Brookhaven MS
Member since Feb 2015
6839 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 4:42 pm to
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without the contributions of high-skilled immigrants


I think you missed the point here. Flooding the market with low skill immigrants huddling in an 18 wheeler is not good for the economy.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 5:55 pm to
You fricking idiots do not understand the difference between legal and illegal immigration
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26713 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 6:20 pm to
Nice try. I would guess that close to 100 percent of the people like me oppose ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, otherwise known as invading a foreign country.

I live immigrants - LEGAL ONES. They're the ones who want to come here to become CITIZENS.

That's what we need - CITIZENS, not residents looking for handouts.
Posted by fischd1
Mandeville
Member since Dec 2007
2860 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 6:41 pm to
You Libs who say we simply do not want brown people to invade our country cause we are raciest make me want to vomit! Have you ever thought honestly that ONLY BROWN PEOPLE ARE ILLEGALLY CROSSING OUR BOARDERS. If Canadians or Brits or any other white people were illegally crossing our boarders I would feel the same way.
Posted by 19557LSU
Member since Jan 2018
342 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 8:09 pm to
Why do they have to be brown? Why can’t they come if we determine they can contribute and assimilate. Merit based!
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