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re: Developing swamp land
Posted on 1/21/18 at 9:39 pm to KajunKouyon
Posted on 1/21/18 at 9:39 pm to KajunKouyon
Would be reasonably sure that it would be wetlands. While you can do the permits yourself be prepared for a long process that will take you a very long time. Having done this in the coastal zone, I can give you some of what we encountered. You will only be able to develop your pad and driveway access. Saltwater marshland mitigation was selling at $8K a 1/4 acre the last time I checked and there was very little mitigation bank left so you can look for those prices to go up. This meaning that you have to buy in 1/4 acre plots for every bit of nature you are looking to change.
On the good side with the erosion issues that we are having I was recently told by a DNR employee that the policy has changed to "do no harm". As long as your not damaging things around you they are reportedly relaxing on some of the red tape that was there when I did mine.
Neighbor had to mitigate his lot, driveway and pad. A few years ago he got tired ot he mosquitos and cut the grass around his house. He got a visit from the Corp threatening to fine him into bankruptcy if he cut that marsh grass again.
SMH
On the good side with the erosion issues that we are having I was recently told by a DNR employee that the policy has changed to "do no harm". As long as your not damaging things around you they are reportedly relaxing on some of the red tape that was there when I did mine.
Neighbor had to mitigate his lot, driveway and pad. A few years ago he got tired ot he mosquitos and cut the grass around his house. He got a visit from the Corp threatening to fine him into bankruptcy if he cut that marsh grass again.
SMH
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Posted on 1/21/18 at 9:49 pm to Reelscreamers
quote:thats about right
Saltwater marshland mitigation was selling at $8K a 1/4 acre
Posted on 1/21/18 at 10:11 pm to Reelscreamers
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This meaning that you have to buy in 1/4 acre plots for every bit of nature you are looking to change.
Not always the case. Depends on the quality and functionality of the land being impacted and the mitigation bank.
You may only need to buy 1 "credit" in some instances to mitigate for that 1/4 acre, and in other cases you may have to buy 4 credits.
I've seen mitigation go for $20k a "credit", with the required mitigation being 5 credits. $100k, and this was Bottomland Hardwood, which is the most common type of mitigation bank in Louisiana.
As far as DNR going "Do No Harm"...that's mostly irrelevant when it comes to whether you have to mitigate or not. The Corps could still require permitting even if the DNR does not, and vice versa. In many cases, the DNR and Corps will go with the same mitigation, assuming a bank is available to satisfy both requirements. If no suitable mitigation banks occur in the coastal zone (meaning the DNR has not approved any Corps-approved mitigation banks for use in CMZ permitting, or credits are not available in an approved bank), the Corps could make you mitigate outside of the CMZ while the DNR could make you pay into the in-lieu fee program. Basically, you pay double for mitigation.
I ran into a situation like this that nearly killed a project.
This post was edited on 1/21/18 at 10:14 pm
Posted on 1/22/18 at 7:32 am to Reelscreamers
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Would be reasonably sure that it would be wetlands. While you can do the permits yourself be prepared for a long process that will take you a very long time. Having done this in the coastal zone, I can give you some of what we encountered. You will only be able to develop your pad and driveway access. Saltwater marshland mitigation was selling at $8K a 1/4 acre the last time I checked and there was very little mitigation bank left so you can look for those prices to go up. This meaning that you have to buy in 1/4 acre plots for every bit of nature you are looking to change.
I can say that we tried this with our property in leeville and it was more pain in the butt than it was worth. they complain about erosion but want you to pay to build up land
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