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re: So...we’re blaming O because A&M is paying 3 million+ to Aranda?

Posted on 1/3/18 at 2:38 pm to
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 2:38 pm to
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So...we’re blaming O because A&M is paying 3 million+ to Aranda?



This is an example of an emotional question that totally misses the point.

LSU embarked on an atypical strategy when it hired Orgeron. The strategy was to hire a marginal (at best) head coach (from a market perspective) and surround him with expensive, high quality assistants.

The strategy would suggest that LSU thought it could find a very good CEO type of HC for cheap and, combined with the talent at the coordinator spot, put together a total staff that rivals the best.

It really wasn't a terrible idea. If you think you can do a good job finding the "cheap" coach, and you think it's easier to find coordinator talent than HC talent, it at least makes sense.

However, if your HC hire is a problem...or, you simply can't keep the coordinators on staff (this was the obvious issue raised by many), you could end up having the worst of both worlds...a below average head coach and always chasing the coordinator talent.

Aranda moving on would be an example of the strategy failing. Keep in mind that Aranda was the single highest paid assistant. He wasn't underpaid. Yet, he's still being poached.

Orgeron is a product of this strategy. He's not a typical head coach with a typical staff structure. It's not Orgeron's fault that Aranda was offered 3M. It's Orgeron's fault for being Orgeron. He has the position he's fairly cheap and fit the model.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
14570 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 2:40 pm to
Damn, if A&M has the money to offer Jimbo a ridiculous salary and 3 mil to Aranda they must be working with the Los Zetas cartel to launder money.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73658 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 2:41 pm to
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It's Orgeron's fault for being Orgeron.


Just perfect.
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
54652 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 2:44 pm to
I blame alleva. He knew O has never coordinated either side of the ball. He knew we would need elite coordinators because LSUs head coach is not capable of coming up with his own plan for an offense or defense. He knew O had to have the best. With being the best coordinator suitors will come for them and are willing to pay for them. Alleva knew if we didn’t have the money to keep them then he should’ve hired a competent head coach.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37536 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 2:46 pm to
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This is an example of an emotional question that totally misses the point.

LSU embarked on an atypical strategy when it hired Orgeron. The strategy was to hire a marginal (at best) head coach (from a market perspective) and surround him with expensive, high quality assistants.

The strategy would suggest that LSU thought it could find a very good CEO type of HC for cheap and, combined with the talent at the coordinator spot, put together a total staff that rivals the best.

It really wasn't a terrible idea. If you think you can do a good job finding the "cheap" coach, and you think it's easier to find coordinator talent than HC talent, it at least makes sense.

However, if your HC hire is a problem...or, you simply can't keep the coordinators on staff (this was the obvious issue raised by many), you could end up having the worst of both worlds...a below average head coach and always chasing the coordinator talent.

Aranda moving on would be an example of the strategy failing. Keep in mind that Aranda was the single highest paid assistant. He wasn't underpaid. Yet, he's still being poached.

Orgeron is a product of this strategy. He's not a typical head coach with a typical staff structure. It's not Orgeron's fault that Aranda was offered 3M. It's Orgeron's fault for being Orgeron. He has the position he's fairly cheap and fit the model.

Bingo.

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a below average head coach and always chasing the coordinator talent.



To me, was the most likely way the scenario played out no matter what. Even if we had success with the model, you have Coordinators only around for 2-3 years max (getting HC offers or NFL gigs where coordinators typically go), and without a true overall vision/strategy, you are constantly installing major systems on one side of the ball or the other every couple of years.
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