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Cornel West: Ta-Nehisi Coates is the neoliberal face of the black freedom struggle
Posted on 12/17/17 at 11:07 am
Posted on 12/17/17 at 11:07 am
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The disagreement between Coates and me is clear: any analysis or vision of our world that omits the centrality of Wall Street power, US military policies, and the complex dynamics of class, gender, and sexuality in black America is too narrow and dangerously misleading. So it is with Ta-Nehisi Coates’ worldview.
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Coates rightly highlights the vicious legacy of white supremacy – past and present. He sees it everywhere and ever reminds us of its plundering effects. Unfortunately, he hardly keeps track of our fightback, and never connects this ugly legacy to the predatory capitalist practices, imperial policies (of war, occupation, detention, assassination) or the black elite’s refusal to confront poverty, patriarchy or transphobia.
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In short, Coates fetishizes white supremacy.
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Coates praises Obama as a “deeply moral human being” while remaining silent on the 563 drone strikes, the assassination of US citizens with no trial, the 26,171 bombs dropped on five Muslim-majority countries in 2016 and the 550 Palestinian children killed with US supported planes in 51 days, etc. He calls Obama “one of the greatest presidents in American history,” who for “eight years ... walked on ice and never fell.”
Posted on 12/17/17 at 11:09 am to HeLeakin
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transphobia
Wondering why this is even in there
Posted on 12/17/17 at 11:12 am to TigerChief10
Neither of them contribute anything with intellectual merit.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 11:12 am to HeLeakin
The thing about black elites embracing victimization as their organizing principle , is that while some may pity a victim, nobody really respects the weak guy . People respect the black African immigrant who perseveres and achieves, they don’t respect the black identity guy that whines and is stuck in external Locus of Control Groundhog Day.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 11:14 am to HeLeakin
quote:TNC, 2013: LINK
Coates praises Obama as a “deeply moral human being” while remaining silent on the 563 drone strikes, the assassination of US citizens with no trial, the 26,171 bombs dropped on five Muslim-majority countries in 2016 and the 550 Palestinian children killed with US supported planes in 51 days, etc.
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I certainly am concerned with the when and why of killing treachorous American citizens. But much more haunting to me is what Filkins highlights here--the lobbing of missiles into the homes of people, and compounding it by claiming to have done no such thing.
Again it one thing to say, "We understand that there will be innocent children who will die because of this kind of warfare, but we must employ all available means to secure American lives and interests." And all another to say as Brennan speaking for the Obama administration did, "there hasn't been a single collateral death because of the exceptional proficiency, precision of the capabilities we've been able to develop." In fact, there have been many "collateral deaths," but they are of the sort that most Americans will never see and, most of us suspect, don't much care about.
But if that's really true, then there is no need to dissemble. There's no need for words like "imminent" when you really mean "when I feel like it" or claiming that you're acting with a country's permission when you're pledged to acting regardless. Americans need not feel ashamed for doing what states always do--act in their best interests. I think it's highly debatable whether drones are in our best interests. In fact I suspect we're seeding future wars.
But our real problem is that we somehow think we're above our own interests, that our virtue is divine. Our problem is we think we're better than we actually are.
This post was edited on 12/17/17 at 11:16 am
Posted on 12/17/17 at 11:16 am to TigerChief10
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transphobia
Wondering why this is even in there
Virtue signal
Posted on 12/17/17 at 11:19 am to HeLeakin
The black liberation crowd has a sad definition of greatness for its people.
Their entire view equates greatness with the defeat of whites.
That's it.
Not getting educated.
Not curing disease.
Not building civilizations.
Not inventing incredible new technology.
Not finding new ways to advance agriculture to feed the world.
None of these but one,
just tear down whitey and you will be 'great'.
Their entire view equates greatness with the defeat of whites.
That's it.
Not getting educated.
Not curing disease.
Not building civilizations.
Not inventing incredible new technology.
Not finding new ways to advance agriculture to feed the world.
None of these but one,
just tear down whitey and you will be 'great'.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 11:20 am to HeLeakin
Cornel West hasn't read TNC at all if this is his takeaway. He's just an old man jealous of losing the "black leftist intellectual" spotlight.
Posted on 12/17/17 at 11:22 am to Dead End
Obama weaponized govt against the people, not very good thing with how the west views freedom...
Posted on 12/17/17 at 11:24 am to HeLeakin
quote:I thought for a few seconds that GoldenNugget was back.
Ta-Nehisi Coates
But then I saw it was HeLeakin and I was
Posted on 12/17/17 at 11:28 am to Iosh
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Cornel West hasn't read TNC at all if this is his takeaway. He's just an old man jealous of losing the "black leftist intellectual" spotlight.
This is an absurd take. West is right, coates knows obama did all these things and still calls him a deeply moral man.
Coates is a one trick pony, who wedges everything into white supremacy. He is a hero to white liberals for a reason. And every time a black intellectual points out the major flaws in his narrative, they are dismissed in exactly the manner you did above. Because blacks have no agency if they disagree with liberals, a truth repeated consistently.
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