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re: Want to really understand how bitcoin works? Here’s a gentle primer

Posted on 12/17/17 at 4:59 pm to
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 12/17/17 at 4:59 pm to
Well now
Posted by jordan21210
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 12/17/17 at 5:48 pm to
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It has every sign of a ponzi scheme.


It’s not. Go read the original paper introducing it...google “bitcoin satoshi nakamoto”. It’s been around, at least in concept, since 2008. Some ideas even before that.

Bitcoin was not created to be an investment. The fact that it’s being treated like shares of stock is not how it is intended to work. The idea is based around a decentralized Nanking system, but since that doesn’t exist people have adapted it to what they know/have. The anonymity/security of buying items with it is another plus, though it’s actually easier to track than paper currency so anyone doing illegal activities with bitcoin is not too smart.

ETA: I’m just learning about bitcoin, so I’m a little fuzzy on some details, but I’m certain that Smith is right...no such thing as a counterfeit bitcoin. The vulnerabilities come with the exchanges because those can be hacked due to their centralized nature. The bitcoin block chain has never been hacked.
This post was edited on 12/17/17 at 5:57 pm
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 12/17/17 at 5:57 pm to
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"Fiat money is currency that a government has declared to be legal tender, but it is not backed by a physical commodity. The value of fiat money is derived from the relationship between supply and demand rather than the value of the material that the money is made of."

Other than the government declaration there is really no difference between crypto currency and those paper and metal representations of monetary value you carry around in your pocket.


OMG !!! do you even read the stupid shite you write, or is it just your so desperate to somehow justify to yourself that you invested in a totally unsecured high risk gamble that is just like a penny stock that has no real value unless someone else is willing to buy it from you.

us currancy is government backed at face value no matter what and it will always be worth face value no matter what.

you may wake up tomorrow and your bitcoins are worth nothing

bitcoin and crypto currencies are the new penny stocks where people gamble with other peoples money, some will get rich on it and most will go broke and lose everything but stop lying trying to say its just as safe as us or any other government backed currencies

you made a very high risk investment and i hope it works out for you but get the frick outta here with claiming its no different and just as safe as us currency when its not. its no different then dropping your money on the roulette table
This post was edited on 12/17/17 at 6:04 pm
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 12/17/17 at 6:02 pm to
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us currancy is government backed at face value no matter what and it will always be worth face value no matter what.



its scary how ignorant you are with this statement
Posted by MrSmith
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 12/17/17 at 6:03 pm to
Oh I see. Based on your grammar, you're just not very intelligent. There's no way you'd understand this subject.
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 12/17/17 at 6:05 pm to
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The vulnerabilities come with the exchanges because those can be hacked due to their centralized nature. The bitcoin block chain has never been hacked.



Which is virtually the same thing, since no individual is carrying the full ledger. Logistically it would be an insane prospect.

And yes, bitcoin itself isn't a ponzi scheme, but the current source of the valuation is.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 12/17/17 at 6:08 pm to
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its scary how ignorant you are with this statement


well enlighten me oh not so wise one, the value of what they might buy changes but when is a quarter not going to buy a quarters worth of something? and when is a dollar not going to buy a dollars worth of something?

............ crickets chirping
This post was edited on 12/17/17 at 6:10 pm
Posted by MrSmith
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 12/17/17 at 6:10 pm to
Again? When the exchange was hacked, someone was able to get into the exchanges own admin software and sold a large amount of bitcoins to himself.
So it's not at all the same thing and having the entire ledger on your machine wouldn't make a difference. I don't even know why you made that statement.
Posted by tigerbutt
Deep South
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Posted on 12/17/17 at 6:11 pm to
Bitcoin litecoin and dash

What’s in you wallet?
Posted by tigerbutt
Deep South
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 12/17/17 at 6:13 pm to
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us currancy is government backed at face value no matter what and it will always be worth face value no matter what.

Holy shite you are stupid.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 6:24 pm to
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well enlighten me oh not so wise one, the value of what they might buy changes but when is a quarter not going to buy a quarters worth of something? and when is a dollar not going to buy a dollars worth of something?



in my best cptbengal response, youre too stupid to debate with
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 12/17/17 at 6:37 pm to
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in my best cptbengal response, youre too stupid to debate with


thats ok, we all know you cant defend what you were saying
Posted by jordan21210
Member since Apr 2009
13418 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 6:46 pm to
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Which is virtually the same thing, since no individual is carrying the full ledger. Logistically it would be an insane prospect. And yes, bitcoin itself isn't a ponzi scheme, but the current source of the valuation is.


The end goal is that exchanges won’t be necessary at all. All bitcoin dealings would be done directly with the person or thing you’re doing business with. Obviously right now that is not that case. Agree on the valuation, it’s dangerously high...but like I said earlier, most people heavily involved in bitcoin know it’s a bubble and know it will bust.

I have no stake in it personally, just think the block chain is interesting.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 7:13 pm to
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in my best cptbengal response


because you know you cant defend the stupid shite you said
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 7:15 pm to
I can tell who lost out on some money
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 7:16 pm to
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Oh I see


and there it is, when you can no longer defend your position against logic you deflect with insults, how juvenile of you
Posted by tigerbutt
Deep South
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 12/17/17 at 7:16 pm to
You obviously do not not realize your US dollars are supposedly backed by gold which there isn’t enough if right?
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 7:19 pm to
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Holy shite


you guys are the ones arguing that bitcoin is just as safe as us currency so go ahead, lets hear from you who is guarantying you get "x" amount of value for every bitcoin you own if it all goes to shite tomorrow
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 7:20 pm to
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and there it is, when you can no longer defend your position against logic you deflect with insults, how juvenile of you



Do you even know what you posted in here?

Your first two posts are long posts of insulting people, laughing at us, and including 20 emojis out the arse like a 12 year old on facebook
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 12/17/17 at 7:20 pm to
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you guys are the ones arguing that bitcoin is just as safe as us currency so go ahead,
So it isn't safer than my cash being stolen, my identity being stolen, or someone stealing my CC information.... damn
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