re: Star Wars Episode 8: The Last Jedi Discussion Thread ***SPOILERS***

after reading the reviews, here and other places, i didnt bother to go see the movie.

a "friend" had a bootleg download version, the "real one" not the fan edited one, so we watched it last night.

i must say it was beyond disappointing.

the way the movie was made and what they did with the characters, and im not speaking of the geeks complaints who religiously hold to the way certain characters must be.

i can see the story line as it was laid out, but certainly isnt the way most envisioned the next movie to be, but it did follow the basic "premise" of the story and then took it in a very not expected direction.

my issues with the movie are with the way the girl "supposedly" needed luke to come save them, yet with only 5 minutes of jedi training from luke she had more power and control over the force then any jedi ever shown in the star wars story, including luke's. yet seemed to be a weak little girl with no confidence or even awareness of that power which is beyond belief and ridiculous on its face.

in the last episode, the emperor and vader were both dead, and they had completely defeated the empire and freedom was being celebrated throughout the galaxy. ok i can see how the empire forces spread throughout the galaxy might have regrouped with a new leader and then regained control, but to jump that far forward to where the rebellion was down to a couple hundred people and only a dozen ships is a stretch too far. if they wanted to do this then there needed to be some massive large battle at the beginning or at least a better explanation explaining the complete destruction of the forces of the rebellion and how they had to scatter to the far reaches of the galaxy just to survive, to explain how its now just a few rag tag remnants remaining.

then the scene where stoke was killed just seemed like a very lazy done script, its literally stealing lukes scene where he turns vader, and i mean "hell this is the exact same setup exactly" feeling and just tweaks it to fit the characters in this story.

finally the way the ending was done was left so undone, and feeling so unfinished, in what all i can explain is as a very lazy way that showed they either ran out of money, or they didnt know how to end it, so they just never finished the movie at all, put in the credits scroll, and called that the ending.

to be a complete movie you needed an ending and they at least had to have an ending scene where they all went off their own way, either to give up fighting or to go recruit a new rebel army in order to come back stronger to begin the fight again some day.

i dont know if it matters in the end because i dont see anyone willing to go see another star wars movie made by disney after the way this one was done so badly, not unless its done more like the previous movies in a true to the character of how a star wars movie is done.

in the end it seems like someone fresh out of high school who never saw any of the previous star wars movies took the script completely in a very non star wars way and made a movie with no knowledge of what star wars is or was ever about.

it was a good movie "based on" the star wars story, but it wasnt a star wars movie, and it wasnt true to the original established characters and who they were based on their back stories, or "anything" that was clearly established about the way the force works in every preceding episode and how a person has the power and is trained to use it and to master it takes many years of training and devotion. this reminds me of the star trek show "The Orville" which is based on star trek but is nothing like star trek. its a good show, but its more of a star trek parody, then a true serious star trek show.


just my 2 1/2 cent review of the movie, albeit pretty late to the thread