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re: Star Wars Episode 8: The Last Jedi Discussion Thread ***SPOILERS***

Posted on 12/14/17 at 10:01 pm to
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 10:01 pm to
frick.

I’m so conflicted.

Star Wars has always been a Skywalker saga. It’s basically not anymore.

Or they are playing possum on Rey’s true lineage to save the reveal for the next movie.

Either way, Luke Skywalker should’ve been the one to bring balance to the force. I had really hoped they were going to explore the concept of the Unifying Force. Instead we get Luke, the Jedi that defeated the two strongest Sith ever, pussying out and then becoming one with the Force.

Nothing that happened in this movie mattered. Nothing advanced the story. All the buildup, Rey’s force vision, ObiWans voice, her seemingly unwieldy command of the force, she’s gotta be a Skywalker, right? Nope. Random chick because basically medichlorians.

frick me.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67282 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:03 pm to
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Nothing that happened in this movie mattered.


Not even close!

Snoke is dead.
Kylo-Ren is now in charge.
Luke is dead.
The Jedi texts are destroyed.
The Resistance fleet is gone pecan.
Ray learned some critical lessons about the force.
We learned what really happened to Luke's fledgling Jedi Academy.
Luke finally showed up to save his sister and the remnants of the Resistance.
We learned about the money forces in the Galaxy profiting from both sides of the war.

We learned that there can be such a thing as Pyrrhic victory. Just look at the American Civil War verses the American Revolution. General Lee won nearly every battle, but in every victory, he lost men he could not replace. Eventually, the attrition caught up with him and he lost the war. Washington, by contrast, lost nearly every battle, but was a master at keeping his forces together. By constantly living to fight another day, his forces lived long enough to strike a decisive victory.

Everyone wants to jump in and get that W, but winning battles doesn't necessarily win wars. Poe took down that big ship, but he lost a ton of men in the process.

This movie was all about unlearning the cliches established in the previous movies. It was about thinking bigger. It was about truly passing the destiny of the story on to the next generation. They will decide where the story goes, who they want to be, and what the future holds.

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Rey’s force vision, ObiWans voice, her seemingly unwieldy command of the force, she’s gotta be a Skywalker, right? Nope. Random chick because basically medichlorians.


We don't know that. Kylo-Ren had lied to her a ton leading up to that. He very well could have been lying about that as well.
This post was edited on 12/14/17 at 11:05 pm
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