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re: How do liberals want Trump to react to the lies by the MSM?
Posted on 12/11/17 at 2:03 pm to PointsInCase
Posted on 12/11/17 at 2:03 pm to PointsInCase
No I’m saying “biggest” lie is subjective
An untruth is an untruth
Precisely, how do I measure one lie against another...when there are so many to choose from?
Here’s a flat out lie. “Flynn will testify candidate trump ordered him to contact Russians”
“Trump Jr Wikileaks on September 4th”
Reporting opinion as fact is unethical...so when journalists casually mention that trump is a racist or what he said is racist, or that is meant to appeal to racists...that’s a lie because they presented it as fact when it is not. This is just an obvious example, there’s no shortage.
A mischaracterization would be tweeting a photo of a half empty arena before the rally with the caption “packed to the rafters” to make people think trump himself was mischaracterizing when he said DURING his rally that it was a full house, a big crowd...or when you say he said all Mexicans are rapists. “Their racists” vs. “they’re rapists” also a flat out lie because they put the latter in print and ignore that he was talking about illegal aliens coming across the border from Mexico
A lie by omission would be, and unrelated to trump but definitely my favorite, when you cut someone off at “stop destroying our community” and call it a “call for peace” when directly after that, the person tells them to go to another neighborhood to continue destroying property...
Just this week you’ve had 3 major bombshells walked back by 4 different outlets to make it appear as if trump worked with the Russian government to win the election. Plus weigel’s photo...all of that in 7 days. I don’t have the time to give you all the shite that’s gone down since July of 2015
An untruth is an untruth
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Subjective: "Based on or influenced by personal feelings, tastes, or opinions."
Precisely, how do I measure one lie against another...when there are so many to choose from?
Here’s a flat out lie. “Flynn will testify candidate trump ordered him to contact Russians”
“Trump Jr Wikileaks on September 4th”
Reporting opinion as fact is unethical...so when journalists casually mention that trump is a racist or what he said is racist, or that is meant to appeal to racists...that’s a lie because they presented it as fact when it is not. This is just an obvious example, there’s no shortage.
A mischaracterization would be tweeting a photo of a half empty arena before the rally with the caption “packed to the rafters” to make people think trump himself was mischaracterizing when he said DURING his rally that it was a full house, a big crowd...or when you say he said all Mexicans are rapists. “Their racists” vs. “they’re rapists” also a flat out lie because they put the latter in print and ignore that he was talking about illegal aliens coming across the border from Mexico
A lie by omission would be, and unrelated to trump but definitely my favorite, when you cut someone off at “stop destroying our community” and call it a “call for peace” when directly after that, the person tells them to go to another neighborhood to continue destroying property...
Just this week you’ve had 3 major bombshells walked back by 4 different outlets to make it appear as if trump worked with the Russian government to win the election. Plus weigel’s photo...all of that in 7 days. I don’t have the time to give you all the shite that’s gone down since July of 2015
Posted on 12/11/17 at 2:15 pm to DelU249
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Precisely, how do I measure one lie against another...when there are so many to choose from? Here’s a flat out lie. “Flynn will testify candidate trump ordered him to contact Russians”
How is it a lie that President-elect Trump ordered his future national security advisor to contact Russia? That seems plausible. It doesn't imply wrongdoing unless there is additional reason to believe so. What's the lie? Where are the facts to support that this is a lie? Keep in mind Flynn has already plead guilty to lying to the FBI. I'm not saying this story is definitely NOT a lie, but you have no proof it is or any inside information to suggest otherwise.
By your definition of lying, Trump lies all the time and we have the tweets to prove it. It's a two-way street. There are websites dedicated to tweets where Trump directly contradicts himself on Twitter.
Moreover, using your definition of lying, Trump is stooping to the level of the MSM (imfotainment networks) to rile up his base of support. Again, I hold the President to a much higher standard than the MSM. But apparently you see it differently.
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