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re: In Our House, There Is No Santa Claus

Posted on 12/11/17 at 8:47 am to
Posted by Pecker
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Member since May 2015
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Posted on 12/11/17 at 8:47 am to
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The fun is the expectation of Santa and everything that goes with it. I loved it as a kid and my kids love it now.

Laziness because in the story you posted the author makes it sound like it's a big deal move the elf.

Does a parent need credit for every gift? Can't some come from Santa? If they need credit for all it's sad.

Rebelling? You know exactly what I'm talking about.


Why does Christmas have to be about Santa? Why can't it be about something more substantive? The children are still receiving gifts. The expectation and enjoyment of Christmas is still there - but they would like their children to value Christmas as something more than a myth centered on good behavior in return for toys.

It's laziness to not partake in a silly marketing gimmick of the elf on the shelf? Since when is Christmas about an elf watching your children? Is that what Christmas means to you?

A parent doesn't "need" credit for the gifts. I would think a parent would instill a spirit of thankfulness irrespective of Christmas gifts. But if a child is to be thankful, shouldn't the thankfulness be directed properly? Can you explain what's inherently wrong with that?

I have no idea what you're talking about with "rebelling." I don't think you do either. The parent listed numerous reasons for not promoting Santa as a real figure.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
32484 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 8:49 am to
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But if a child is to be thankful, shouldn't the thankfulness be directed properly



My god you have low self-esteem.


Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34517 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 8:51 am to
Pecker do you have kids?




FWIW, i think elf on the shelf is retarded.. as is most of the fads that are popular on social media... serious question: was elf on the shelf a thing before Facebook?
This post was edited on 12/11/17 at 8:53 am
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68413 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 8:55 am to
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Why does Christmas have to be about Santa? Why can't it be about something more substantive?
It can be about multiple things, including Santa.

Rebelling against "bourgeois" social norms in order for the parents to feel superior. Then inventing all manner of rationalizations about how it's not about that, like in your story.
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 9:53 am to
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Why does Christmas have to be about Santa? Why can't it be about something more substantive?


Because most small children haven't developed enough yet to understand anything "more substantive".

And besides, the world at large is a pretty shitty place, so its kind of nice seeing kids still believing in someithg magical while they are young.
Posted by georgia
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 12/11/17 at 9:18 pm to
My son is 16 now, but I never told him Santa was real, but rather that it’s a game people play at Christmas so he wouldn’t ruin it for children who’s parents wanted them to believe. I feel that in the world he’s a part of that he needs to understand that a gift is not a gift unless it COSTS someone something, be it money, sweat, time, effort or tears, and when a gift is given to him it cost the giver and should be appreciated and respected accordingly. I couldn’t care less about that credit being given to me, my kid is spoiled AF, and knows he gets things from me all year long, I want him to know that when he gives it should cost him something, and when others give to him it should be respected. I want him to grow up as an adult who understands that things don’t come freely given, and to make rational and informed choices based on information he can trust, and for that reason, lying is never acceptable in my home. The truth, no matter how uncomfortable is always easier to deal with. People who lie to their children steal their right to the truth, and they can’t be surprised when that comes back to haunt them later when their children are grown.
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