re: I wonder if Leftists would defend a Muslim baker if...

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Who gives a frick about trivial shite like this? Not worth wasting my time on something that has been so overblown. frick both sides.

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Well if you care about your First Amendment rights and don't want the government to put a gun to your head to provide services to people/ideas that you disagree with, you should care. Really, what's the difference between this and some Klan members going to a carpenter wanting to force him to make a giant cross that they plan on burning later? You don't see the slippery slope this represents?

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Well if you care about your First Amendment rights and don't want the government to put a gun to your head to provide services to people/ideas that you disagree with, you should care. Really, what's the difference between this and some Klan members going to a carpenter wanting to force him to make a giant cross that they plan on burning later? You don't see the slippery slope this represents?

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I've never had to resort to a legal action to solve a dispute or disagreement with anyone. People can change their beliefs on the fly because beliefs are intangible. Live and let live is more important to me that fighting over a Goddamn birthday cake. Give me something important to consider before bringing up your slippery slop.

Ok let's take it further.

At what point does it stop. Is a baker Muslim or Christian allowed to impose their religion on a Hindu or Buddhist customer?

What about a Korean refusing to decorate a cake for Japanese wedding?

How about a gay baker refusing to make a straight wedding cake?

The answer is if all the above are Americans, bake, sell, and decorate cakes. Then yes you do the job you advertise and take the cash.

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At what point does it stop. Is a baker Muslim or Christian allowed to impose their religion on a Hindu or Buddhist customer?

What about a Korean refusing to decorate a cake for Japanese wedding?

How about a gay baker refusing to make a straight wedding cake?

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The answers to all those questions is yes, they absolutely should be allowed to. Because I believe in the power of the almighty dollar. If a gay baker refuses to serve a straight wedding, then they're going out of business. People who are offended that this man won't bake a cake for a gay wedding can get their cakes elsewhere. If he goes out of business over customers going elsewhere, then that's American freedom. The only color people really see in the end is green. It stops right here with this case, and then lets let the free market decide.

Let me see if I can play your game of "At what point does it stop":

What about the Westboro Baptist Church going to a gay bakery and force them to bake a "God Hates F@#s" cake?

How about a guy going into a bakery and forcing the baker to make a cake with disgusting sex acts all over it?

How about forcing a Jewish tailor to spend months making a few dozen Nazi uniforms for a white supremacist rally?

It's absolute nonsense and trounces all over individual liberties to support assholes. What you are proposing is fascism where I now need to rely on the government to make all of my decisions for me.

I'm more of a Libertarian but I absolutely would defend it. I would also defend the Christian bakery. If a business doesn't want to bake for someone, they shouldn't be forced to. Let the free market hand said business if they don't like the way they choose to run their business.

I wouldn't spend my money there but they should have the right to live up to their religious beliefs as long as they are a private company.

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That's unamerican.

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bullshite. America is where you go succeed and fail based on your ideas. Its a free country, or at least that’s what they’re telling me anyway.

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You're arguing for safe spaces, segregation, and inequality.

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What safe spaces? The safe space where your business fails for partaking in discrimination?

You’re arguing for fricking fascism. If I want to run a business and I’m not hurting anyone else, I should be able to do whatever the frick I want with it. But you Leftist hacks want to say I can’t open a bar where I want to directly appeal to smokers. If you don’t like smokers, go somewhere else. Either I’ll attract enough smokers or people who are fine being around them and prosper, or I’m going to go out of business. It’s none of your fricking business how I want to operate so long as I’m not harming anyone else.

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You're no better than Black Lives Matter in taking away areas for all students.

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What BLM is arguing is on the taxpayers dime and not on the personal dime. They want me, a tax payer, to pay for their safe space bullshite and to be stuck with the tab for their social work bullshite. I’m just arguing that if I have enough capital to build a business and people are willing for it, I should be able to run that business however I see fit.