re: So when do we actually start giving O some credit?

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I give credit to Canada and Aranda

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I agree. I do too.

But if you can’t give O any credit, you are either hard-headed, dumb, or both.

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I give credit to Canada and Aranda

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Do you give Canada credit for scoring 7 vs Miss St? Or Aranda for the D giving up 465 yards?

Does Aranda get credit for giving up 363 yards and 24 points to Troy?

Does Canada get credit for scoring 10 points vs Bama?

I'm not an O apologist or supporter. I'm an LSU fan. The issue is you can't give credit to the coordinators for wins and good performances sans the HC and lay blame at the feet of the HC for losses without laying blame at the coordinators feet as well.

I know the next response will be , but O and the Troy interference. Honest question, putting yourself in the HC's shoes. With the OL issues, WR struggles early on, QB learning new system, ridiculous number of penalties and even run game problems, would you have told your OC to simplify the offense until they get their footing?

I'm just trying to think logically and remove any Orgeron bias (either way). I know that's hard on here and a futile endeavor, but you can't blame me for trying.

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I give credit to Canada and Aranda

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If Les gets credit for not hiring a quality OC, u
Timately getting him fired, then O has to get equal credit for bringing Canada on board. He also managed to retain Aranda.