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re: Shoeless Joe belongs in the Hall of Fame
Posted on 11/22/17 at 12:42 am to SlowEasyConfident
Posted on 11/22/17 at 12:42 am to SlowEasyConfident
quote:Ah shite.
An all time great who was innocent imo
Did he play for the black sox?
Do we have a legit good documentary about them?
For some reason I can't get into baseball from back then.
I feel like it was a buncha dude playing casual backyard baseball. Basically nothing to respect.
I equate it to trying to convince y'all to respect Alabama's 1925 National Championship.
They're both a joke.
This post was edited on 11/22/17 at 8:48 am
Posted on 11/22/17 at 12:53 am to ReauxlTide222
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I equate it to trying to convince y'all to respect Alabama's 1925 National Championship.
Why stop at 1925...you can go at the very least all the way up to 1964 "claimed" title and probably up to 1973 "claimed" title and a little beyond.
I put in paranthenses to deliniate from uninamous titles and "claimed" non-unanimous publication titles.
It's a pasty record, eh?
This post was edited on 11/22/17 at 12:54 am
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:32 am to ReauxlTide222
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Do we have a legit good documentary about them?
Eight Men Out is based on a non-fiction book. The movie is fun, the book is excellent, and really gets into the details of the Series.
Jackson took the money, and he threw games. The gamblers then tried to double cross the players, so the players tried to win a few games as well. In those double cross games, Jackson was awesome. He also hit a solo home run late in a game in which the Sox were already losing by something like 10 runs.
Buck Weaver really is the guy who got screwed, though he wasn't a Hall of Famer (took no money, played his best, but he knew about the fix and didn't say anything). And Eddie Cicotte probably had a Hall of Fame case, but he definitely tanked, and he tanked hard. Though Buck Weaver made a great point that Eddie Collins, who was clean, played like dog crap in the Series.
But being banned has been GREAT for Joe Jackson's legacy. It's the only reason you know who he is, while you have no idea who Dan Brouthers or Nap Lajoie are.
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