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re: Conservative Christians rally around persecuted Judge Roy Moore
Posted on 11/20/17 at 11:15 am to Revelator
Posted on 11/20/17 at 11:15 am to Revelator
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And if Christianity has to pretend it's something it isn't to attract crowds, there is nothing to offer those who come.
Thats not what Im trying to say at all, if you go back and read what I said earlier I mentioned that Christianity(specifically the gospels) have a lot of great messages to offer humanity. I truly believe that.
So when I say brand that does not necessarily imply that Christians have to falsify themselves. Im saying that instead of focusing on things like "homosexuals are an affront to god" and being so hardcore about abstinence only, no birth control, evolution etc they should shift focus. Love, forgiveness, charity.
The problem imo though is that a lot of the gospel, when taken at face value interpretation-wise, imo crosses more over with liberalism than traditional conservatism. Passivism and socialism to some extent. I think that creates a conundrum for christian conservatives, but thats another subject. Or course, this whole conversation depends on how one interprets the text. Turn the other cheek vs. the money lenders or whatever. There are plenty of folks who truly believe that Jesus would grab an AR and smoke a bunch of Muslims. To me that flies in the face of his teaching as I interpret it.
Anyway, im blathering now.
ETA: What I was getting at toward the end here is, since everything biblical is based on interpretation, the way forward is re-interpretation. There was a time when the bible would have "decreed" that a woman wearing a bikini be outcast from society. The words in the book didnt change. The interpretation did.
This post was edited on 11/20/17 at 11:23 am
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Posted on 11/20/17 at 11:23 am to AUbused
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So when I say brand that does not necessarily imply that Christians have to falsify themselves. Im saying that instead of focusing on things like "homosexuals are an affront to god" and being so hardcore about abstinence only, no birth control, evolution etc they should shift focus. Love, forgiveness, charity.
so what you're basically saying is that you can pick and choose what you like and therefore there is no need for personal change, then it follows that Roy Moore is good to go, no need to change at all, because he can pick the parts that are good for himself. Senator elect RM
Posted on 11/20/17 at 11:24 am to AUbused
I think the key point is the purpose of Christ's incarnation and life on earth. Those on both sides who look at what He did as a blueprint for political action are missing the point; His kingdom wasn't of this earth.
His entire mission was to reveal the truth of salvation of the soul so that no matter your political position, if you trusted in His sacrifice, you could have eternal life. His message is so much greater than how to be nice to other people; it's about the glory of God in saving His people. Sin is a factor in this, which is why Jesus called people to repent. That's why Christians focus on homosexuality, abortion, sexual promiscuity, and the like, because we are called to be holy as He is holy.
To the Christian, calling someone to repent of their sins and look to Christ for forgiveness is the most loving thing you could possibly do to another person. Likewise, ignoring (or worse, accepting) the sins of others and letting them live their lives without concern for their souls is the most hateful thing a Christian can do, because a few years of sinful bliss is nothing compared to an eternity of suffering.
His entire mission was to reveal the truth of salvation of the soul so that no matter your political position, if you trusted in His sacrifice, you could have eternal life. His message is so much greater than how to be nice to other people; it's about the glory of God in saving His people. Sin is a factor in this, which is why Jesus called people to repent. That's why Christians focus on homosexuality, abortion, sexual promiscuity, and the like, because we are called to be holy as He is holy.
To the Christian, calling someone to repent of their sins and look to Christ for forgiveness is the most loving thing you could possibly do to another person. Likewise, ignoring (or worse, accepting) the sins of others and letting them live their lives without concern for their souls is the most hateful thing a Christian can do, because a few years of sinful bliss is nothing compared to an eternity of suffering.
Posted on 11/20/17 at 11:29 am to AUbused
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So when I say brand that does not necessarily imply that Christians have to falsify themselves. Im saying that instead of focusing on things like "homosexuals are an affront to god" and being so hardcore about abstinence only, no birth control, evolution etc they should shift focus. Love, forgiveness, charity.
But if the Bible says that formication, adultery, homosexuality and the like are sins that lead to death, and then you pretend they aren't and don't warn those practicing such sins simply to attract crowds, how is this real love?
Kids really like to eat candy and they think you are a mean parents if you try to keep them from it. But would any good parent let their children eat all the candy they wanted simply to win favor with them?
There is no such thing as Christianity lite.
This post was edited on 11/20/17 at 11:32 am
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