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2012 Mettenberger v. 2016 Etling

Posted on 11/13/17 at 11:16 am
Posted by helllo_heisman002
Member since Dec 2011
385 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 11:16 am
On paper, Etling has the edge.

People need to get off this guy's back. The guy is literally playing at his max potential. Nobody really "dogged" Mett, as much as we have to Etling. Etling, in my opinion, is a victim of the Miles-O transition, But honestly has performed well. If he wins a few extra games (i.e. Bama, Auburn '16), this guy could have been an LSU legend....

2012 Mett Stats

2016 Etling Stats


This post was edited on 11/13/17 at 11:18 am
Posted by nugget
Abrego Garcia Fan
Member since Dec 2009
15666 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 11:19 am to
Dude has had multiple games where he didn't complete a pass to a WR. Plus you're comparing apples to oranges. Try comparing their senior seasons. Also try comparing the 2012 Bama game to this Bama game.
Posted by TIGER FAN 72
Member since Jun 2009
716 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 11:21 am to
Come on man. I’m an Etling fan too (bc of his heart); but the guy just doesn’t have it
Posted by helllo_heisman002
Member since Dec 2011
385 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 11:23 am to
Etling had to learn two separate offenses. And given his limited skillset compared to current NFL Qb Mettenberger, you can't say Etling hasn't done pretty well for his situation. Also, re-watch 2013 Bama game, Mett took way too many sacks. Etling is at least mobile enough to not lose 10+ yards each sack. Bottom line, people need to give this guy some credit...
This post was edited on 11/13/17 at 11:24 am
Posted by LsuTool
Member since Oct 2009
35819 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 11:24 am to
If we had mett this year, we are playoff bound no question

Stats aren't everything
Posted by iamandykeim
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2015
3659 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 11:30 am to
stats don't tell the whole picture here. Mett was playing with a bad offense while we finally have a competent playcaller in Canada. we all could see mett had the arm and potential
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 11:30 am to
quote:

If we had mett this year, we are playoff bound no question

Stats aren't everything


Mett wouldn't have done shite against MSU with the way we played on defense.

But yeah, we win the rest of them I think with him.

He doesn't miss a single one of those throws against Bama.
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11193 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 11:34 am to
quote:

Dude has had multiple games where he didn't complete a pass to a WR

Multiple games? Which one other than Ole Miss? A game where he went 9/13 for 200 yards and 2 TDs, by the way. Oh and a game where we put up 40 points and won by 16.

He's absolutely the reason we lost to Alabama. He was also awful against State, but come on man...He didn't complete a pass to a wr is what you're going to do with to prove he's not good?
Posted by SPEEDY
2005 Tiger Smack Poster of the Year
Member since Dec 2003
86993 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 11:37 am to
quote:


2012 Mettenberger v. 2016 Etling

On paper, Etling has the edge.



Now compare 2013 Mett, (his 2nd year starting), to 2017 Etling, which is his 2nd year starting
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
19059 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 11:41 am to
Why are you comparing to 2012 Matt and not 2013?
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
71519 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 11:44 am to
Mettenberger wasn't very good in 2012, 2013 was much much better
Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
Member since Sep 2003
46051 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 11:46 am to
quote:

He doesn't miss a single one of those throws against Bama.



2012 Mett might. you remember the A&M game where he kept overthrowing deep balls? we had guys running free on them like crazy.

Mett after the bye in 2012 was a lot better though. 2013 Mett was of course
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94737 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 11:48 am to
quote:

Etling had to learn two separate offenses.


Etling has had 4 offensive coordinators, 4 offenses to learn and 3 head coaches in 5 years. Part of that was voluntary, but still, that's a lot of changes for the young man.

He's just not an elite QB, period. It is what it is.
Posted by MrSpock
Member since Sep 2015
5058 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 11:49 am to
quote:

A game where he went 9/13


But what about his second half stats?
Posted by BugaNaish
Member since Nov 2016
103 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 11:50 am to
I agree - Here are his 2013 Stats

LINK
Posted by ElRoos
Member since Nov 2017
7829 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 11:56 am to
quote:

Nobody really "dogged" Mett, as much as we have to Etling.


Not true.

quote:

But honestly has performed well.


He has only played "well" because the coaches have limited his throwing in games. He is managing games, but that's nothing short of great.

Also, what exactly is the point of comparing 2016 Etling to 2012 Mett? Would it not be better to compare 2013 Mett with 2017 Etling, of which Etling could not even hold Mett's jockstrap even if he tried?

It's like how people keep saying Etling is the 4th best QB in the SEC, but I can guarantee you he throws at much lower rates than the other QBs. It's a skewed metric that makes Etling seem much better than he really is.
This post was edited on 11/13/17 at 11:57 am
Posted by OhIMember
NOLA
Member since Dec 2016
31 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 11:56 am to
Etling's problem is that he cannot complete an intermediate pass. It's always either a check down or a bomb to Chark with nothing in between.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
71519 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 12:00 pm to
quote:

Nobody really "dogged" Mett, as much as we have to Etling.


Difference being it was Mett's first year and he CLEARLY had a lot of talent, nobody felt like he was going to be the one to hold us back.

Etling clearly is talent limited. Canada has done a GREAT job playing to his strengths and hiding his weaknesses this year so he's been very efficient. The problem is when we've needed plays from the QB - see Alabama and MSU games, we couldn't get them out of Etling really at all. We've limited bad games from Etling otherwise. Those 2 games Etling was just awful, but every other game he posted at least a 140 passer rating which is quite decent. We lost a third game against Troy, but he didn't get to play that whole game, so no telling what happens if he does.
This post was edited on 11/13/17 at 12:02 pm
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11193 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 12:02 pm to
quote:

But what about his second half stats?

Good one. Hilarious.
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11193 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 12:04 pm to
quote:

Etling's problem is that he cannot complete an intermediate pass. It's always either a check down or a bomb to Chark with nothing in between.

You didn't watch the Arkansas game on Saturday? He connected on a ton of intermediate passes. His problem is he doesn't go through his reads well.
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