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re: Who wants a #HOTTAKE?
Posted on 11/6/17 at 3:39 pm to TigerinATL
Posted on 11/6/17 at 3:39 pm to TigerinATL
I know it's easy for me to sit back here and say this was stupid or that was stupid. I know there are a lot of things as a fan we will never see or know that goes into negotiations.
The part i don't understand is that the GM and the Coach had to both feel that Jrue was very very important to this team going forward to even think about offering him the contract he got. What have they seen to think he deserves the type of money.
Just a reminder, we made Jrue the 14th highest paid player in the NBA. 14th. He's not even the 14th best backcourt player in the nba.
Here's a list of guys that are locked in for 4+ years making over $20M/yr
Steph Curry
Blake Griffin
Russell Westbrook
Mike Conley
James Harden
Damian Lillard
Jrue Holiday
CJ McCollum
Bradley Beal
Stephen Adams
Giannis
Rudy Gobert
Victor Oladipo
John Wall
Jrue's name does not belong in that list. Neither does Oladipo, but he's actually playing really well.
Why did Toronto's GM know he could resign his guy for only 3 years? How did Denvers GM know he could get Milsaps for 3 years. How did Minny's GM know they could get Teague for 3 years.
JJ Reddick gets 1 year, KCP gets 1 year. George Hill could only muster a 3 year deal from Sacto.
Where was the market for the 5 year guy? Curry, Griffin, Westbrook and Harden. That was the market. and yes i konw Jrue's 5th year is a player option, but at this rate we all know he's opting into that.
Waiters signed 4/52
Hardaway 4/71 with the 4th year player option
Snell 4/46
Otto Porter 4/104 with 4th year player option
Joe Ingles 4/50
PJ Tucker 4/32
Ibaka 3/65
Gallinari 3/65
Olynk 4/50
They point is Jrue isn't some elite level player, yet we gave him a contract like he was, and that has nothing to do with how he's playing right now. That statement was true 4 months ago. He even gave you a reason to believe he wasn't going to mesh with AD and Cousins in the last few games of the season where he looked terrible with them, and they completely ignored that.
The part i don't understand is that the GM and the Coach had to both feel that Jrue was very very important to this team going forward to even think about offering him the contract he got. What have they seen to think he deserves the type of money.
Just a reminder, we made Jrue the 14th highest paid player in the NBA. 14th. He's not even the 14th best backcourt player in the nba.
Here's a list of guys that are locked in for 4+ years making over $20M/yr
Steph Curry
Blake Griffin
Russell Westbrook
Mike Conley
James Harden
Damian Lillard
Jrue Holiday
CJ McCollum
Bradley Beal
Stephen Adams
Giannis
Rudy Gobert
Victor Oladipo
John Wall
Jrue's name does not belong in that list. Neither does Oladipo, but he's actually playing really well.
Why did Toronto's GM know he could resign his guy for only 3 years? How did Denvers GM know he could get Milsaps for 3 years. How did Minny's GM know they could get Teague for 3 years.
JJ Reddick gets 1 year, KCP gets 1 year. George Hill could only muster a 3 year deal from Sacto.
Where was the market for the 5 year guy? Curry, Griffin, Westbrook and Harden. That was the market. and yes i konw Jrue's 5th year is a player option, but at this rate we all know he's opting into that.
Waiters signed 4/52
Hardaway 4/71 with the 4th year player option
Snell 4/46
Otto Porter 4/104 with 4th year player option
Joe Ingles 4/50
PJ Tucker 4/32
Ibaka 3/65
Gallinari 3/65
Olynk 4/50
They point is Jrue isn't some elite level player, yet we gave him a contract like he was, and that has nothing to do with how he's playing right now. That statement was true 4 months ago. He even gave you a reason to believe he wasn't going to mesh with AD and Cousins in the last few games of the season where he looked terrible with them, and they completely ignored that.
Posted on 11/6/17 at 4:07 pm to TeddyPadillac
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Why did Toronto's GM know he could resign his guy for only 3 years? How did Denvers GM know he could get Milsaps for 3 years. How did Minny's GM know they could get Teague for 3 years.
JJ Reddick gets 1 year, KCP gets 1 year. George Hill could only muster a 3 year deal from Sacto.
1) most of those guys got short deals because they're older and KCP was just looking for a temporary home.
2) 2 offsesaons ago everyone thought short deals would be what everyone signed hoping to opt out and cash in the following year when the cap escalated that didn't happen. It's really hard to predict this stuff. Masai Ujiri hasn't done a better job than Demps because he only offered old Kyle Lowry a 3 year deal, he's done a better job than Demps because he's managed his assets well and been patient enough to give himself options instead of forcing his own hand to make moves before he was ready.
We've seen the Hornicans mismanage 2 star player builds now and it was never one bad move that killed them. That last or biggest bad move is what people focused on, but it was usually a series of bad moves that compound and lead to even worse choices. Giving Jrue that contract is the symptom. The disease is that as little as 8 months ago he was the 2nd best player on the team because they made bad bets on guys getting better as you and corndeaux already discussed.
This post was edited on 11/6/17 at 4:11 pm
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