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re: Etling is better than most think
Posted on 10/26/17 at 1:26 pm to Robbytiger
Posted on 10/26/17 at 1:26 pm to Robbytiger
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Could it be that Dillon is in the slot and doesn’t get bumped as much and the throws are on time as a result?
Never actually thought about this but it's TRUE even if you go back and watch last year tape etling can only throw against quality corners on 50/50 balls. Some of that is the receivers the other part of it is he has to throw his receiver open which I dont think he has the speedy awareness to do.
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Posted on 10/26/17 at 1:32 pm to TNTigerman
Can't we just all agree that eating sucks as a person and as a QB, should be kicked off the team, and his name removed from all documentaction?
Just for a second lets all agree that he sucks. That wouldn't change the fact that everyone here that is bashing him suck even worse as LSU fans.
Just for a second lets all agree that he sucks. That wouldn't change the fact that everyone here that is bashing him suck even worse as LSU fans.
Posted on 10/26/17 at 1:37 pm to Madking
Those qbs you are comparing him to were able to move the chains with intermediate passes and had much better accuracy. Those teams didn’t rely on deep third Hail Mary miracles. Canada will not pass etling across the middle when the game is close or contested.
Posted on 10/26/17 at 1:39 pm to bdnc
He is a great tiger. Tough as nails.. but he holds onto the ball way too long
Posted on 10/26/17 at 1:41 pm to bdnc
I haven't read all 17 pages of this thread to know if it's been mentioned or not, but Elting is #15 in QBR in the country, right behind J. Hurts. Whoever said he is the second best QB we have had this decade behind Mett is spot on. He doesn't have a lot of natural tools but he is performing at a high level at #15
Posted on 10/26/17 at 1:46 pm to Cronkytonk
J. Lee was one of the most efficient quarterbacks in the nation in 2011, but he lost his job to Jefferson. Did he also perform at a high level?
Posted on 10/26/17 at 1:51 pm to Kaldur
You say that but the numbers don’t. And since the numbers don’t mean anything to you guys and you’ve opened up the ambiguous context argument then you have to accept the pro Etling context as well.
This post was edited on 10/26/17 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 10/26/17 at 1:53 pm to Cronkytonk
Etling isn't going to wow anyone with his passes. However, his lack of turnovers and yards per attempt is what gives him such a high QBR number.
In reality, he's the game manager we've long said we needed.
In reality, he's the game manager we've long said we needed.
Posted on 10/26/17 at 1:54 pm to Madking
The numbers do not lie. We have one of the weakest passing attacks in America. Etling was severely exposed last year against Bama and nobody is confident about this year either.
Posted on 10/26/17 at 1:55 pm to A1tiger
Lee didn’t have enough attempts to qualify for any statistical ranking and even so Etlings rating is higher.
Posted on 10/26/17 at 1:55 pm to omegaman66
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Can't we just all agree that eating sucks as a person and as a QB, should be kicked off the team, and his name removed from all documentaction?
Just for a second lets all agree that he sucks. That wouldn't change the fact that everyone here that is bashing him suck even worse as LSU fans.
Because no one here thinks he sucks as a person. And no one here thinks he should be kicked off the team. Because that's absurd. I've never understood this about the rant. It's possible to be realistic about a player's abilities while still wanting them to do well. The two are not mutually exclusive.
Posted on 10/26/17 at 1:56 pm to A1tiger
You can’t say the numbers don’t lie while ignoring the numbers dude.
Posted on 10/26/17 at 1:57 pm to Madking
He started 8 games and had similar amount of attempts
Posted on 10/26/17 at 2:00 pm to A1tiger
That’s true but Etling has a higher rating that’s been climbing as the seasons progressed. Even with a bad game vs Bama (which btw can’t be worse than Lee’s last Bama game yet I haven’t heard it mentioned) he’ll still almost certainly exceed lees numbers with much more attempts working with much less talent. This is the biggest piece of the puzzle that anti-Etling fans don’t wanna admit. He’s doing this with no protection at all and no pass catchers, and when he uses what he has at his disposal he gets knocked for that too.
This post was edited on 10/26/17 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 10/26/17 at 2:06 pm to Madking
Lee was 9-0 as a starter. Led the SEC with 152.0 efficiency and had 13 tds/ 3 int
Posted on 10/26/17 at 2:08 pm to the_watcher
This thread is full of people shutting on eating. They suck. That is all. I will hang up and listen.... to all the sucky fans post how it is cool to shot on etling. What the fork ate the trying to accomplish?
Posted on 10/26/17 at 2:12 pm to A1tiger
Lee wasn't one of the most efficient by QBR. He isn't even in the top 122 that year. Did he not play enough to be eligible for the rankings? Possibly. Lee absolutely played at a high level at times that year. For much of the year. He also threw some interceptions and got happy feet against Bama.
What is your point about Lee? Youre taking offense to me saying Elting has performed at a high level? Ok go ahead and think what you think. I choose to focus on the fact that even though we don't have a guy that will win us games, we have one is also not losing them, is absolutely making some excellent plays, and by one unbiased measure he is having an excellent season.
Go Tigers!
What is your point about Lee? Youre taking offense to me saying Elting has performed at a high level? Ok go ahead and think what you think. I choose to focus on the fact that even though we don't have a guy that will win us games, we have one is also not losing them, is absolutely making some excellent plays, and by one unbiased measure he is having an excellent season.
Go Tigers!
Posted on 10/26/17 at 2:15 pm to A1tiger
You don’t have to convince me I liked Lee but Etlings efficiency is better 156+ and he’s doing it with a lot less. Lee had the top WR in the SEC the second best WR on the planet 5 NFL backs and an A level oline while Etling has a C- Oline who’s an F in pass blocking and 1 WR. You don’t see a difference there? Lee had a nice arm quick release but even his Sr. Year he was gunshy would lock onto 1 guy and get rid of the ball nomatter what was in front of him. Etling has less arm strength but his feet, eyes, pocket presence, mobility and decision making are in another world compared to Lee.
Posted on 10/26/17 at 2:15 pm to omegaman66
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This thread is full of people shutting on eating. They suck. That is all. I will hang up and listen.... to all the sucky fans post how it is cool to shot on etling. What the fork ate the trying to accomplish?
If you think someone "sucks" because they have a different opinion than you, you are actually the one who sucks. They are discussing LSU players on an LSU message board created so people could discuss LSU sports. Just because you don't like or agree with what they are saying i.e. Etling isn't a good quarterback, doesn't make anyone any less of a fan. It just makes you look childish
Posted on 10/26/17 at 2:18 pm to Cronkytonk
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I choose to focus on the fact that even though we don't have a guy that will win us games, we have one is also not losing them
We scored 7 total points and lost to Mississippi St. We scored zero points in the first half of a game against Troy and subsequently lost. To Troy. Who plays in the Sun Belt conference.
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