What about them? They've decreased while output and productivity increased. Clearly they are becoming less of a necessity and have been replaced by more productive means.

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That’s the political issue.

And what is politics going to do about it? Make companies forgoe technology and innovation and hire workers instead?

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That chart is great for the 1%ers, sucks for the little guy.

So what? If humans aren't as productive as other means, then we can either whine about it, or focus elsewhere where we have more value. They aren't entitled to a job. . Just like those minimum wage workers who demand a living wage, they aren't entitled to a job or set wage. And they can't whine when technology replaces them, especially when they hasten it.

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That’s what Trump is tapping into.

OK. That's why I pointed I cited trends here in America. The trends are obvious. Trump can tap into it all he wants, but a leader would focus on tapping into substantive solutions not ideas that are a temporary band aid to appease some emotional reminiscing.

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Posted by Bass Tiger

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Posted on 10/10/17 at 7:32 pm to buckeye_vol

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So what? If humans aren't as productive as other means, then we can either whine about it, or focus elsewhere where we have more value. They aren't entitled to a job. . Just like those minimum wage workers who demand a living wage, they aren't entitled to a job or set wage. And they can't whine when technology replaces them, especially when they hasten it.

So I'll assume you're down with the UBI? It's going to be interesting in the coming years when 40-50% of the population is not required to participate in the economy due to automation/robotics/AI. Idle time is the devils time.

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Posted by GumboPot

Member since Mar 2009

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Posted on 10/10/17 at 7:50 pm to buckeye_vol

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What about them? They've decreased while output and productivity increased. Clearly they are becoming less of a necessity and have been replaced by more productive means.

Okay.

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And what is politics going to do about it?

Address the issue, i.e., the “squeaky wheel” like politicians always do.

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Make companies forgoe technology and innovation and hire workers instead?

Nah. Just level the playing field with trading partners. For example see the current actions by the Commerce Department against Bomardier that saved many Boeing jobs and profits.

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So what? If humans aren't as productive as other means, then we can either whine about it, or focus elsewhere where we have more value. They aren't entitled to a job. . Just like those minimum wage workers who demand a living wage, they aren't entitled to a job or set wage. And they can't whine when technology replaces them, especially when they hasten it.

Yeah, I agree. However if you are a politician and you don’t address the issue your opponent will.

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OK. That's why I pointed I cited trends here in America. The trends are obvious. Trump can tap into it all he wants, but a leader would focus on tapping into substantive solutions not ideas that are a temporary band aid to appease some emotional reminiscing.

In terms of NAFTA Trump wants to nix it and enter into bilateral trade deals instead. I get the impression that he believes these multinational trade deals hamper our negotiation power.

In terms of China, he’s using our current trade relations to effect NK.

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