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re: Life insurance questions\advice
Posted on 10/3/17 at 6:31 pm to baldona
Posted on 10/3/17 at 6:31 pm to baldona
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baldona
Damn we are doing this song and dance again?
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At 64? Over $1 mil and a paid off house.
The correct answer is it varies based on retirement goals, expected lifespan and acceptable level of risk in investing.
I need more than $1mil in the bank if I plan on keeping my lake house. Property taxes don't pay themselves
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To hit $1 mil, you have to save something like $7,000 a year for 35 years.
Except that you aren't accounting for inflation / $1mil today isn't = $1mil in 35 years. Even At federal reserve historically low target inflation rates 2% that $1mil = $~2mil at that rate
If you were able to get market historical return rates (7.5%) you would need roughly $12,000 per year to hit ~$2,000,000
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I despise these 30 year plans: life insurance, mortgages, etc.
Because you "suck" at saving / finance and don't recognize advantages of being g leveraged at low interest rates
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They take out HELOC and refinances to pay for a bunch of crap they don't need and can't afford.
Not a 30 year mortgage's fault that people have spending problems
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If it takes you longer than 15 years, you aren't working hard enough and saving enough money to prepare yourself properly.
This is financially inefficient if you believe your investment rate of return is greater than mortgage interest rate.
There also is liquidity risk and asset diversification problems with having a large chunk of your net worth tied up in one property
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But my point is, 15 years is plenty long to do all of those things with proper planning.
Ya it is plenty long enough. You just have to accept you are throwing away an opportunity
This post was edited on 10/3/17 at 6:44 pm
Posted on 10/9/17 at 12:13 pm to GenesChin
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At 64? Over $1 mil and a paid off house.
The correct answer is it varies based on retirement goals, expected lifespan and acceptable level of risk in investing. I need more than $1mil in the bank if I plan on keeping my lake house. Property taxes don't pay themselves
Hey, we agree!
He asked me how much someone at 64 should have at a minimum. If at 64, the average person doesn't have a $1 mil net worth then yeah they suck at saving. Take that to the bank.
Anyone with a household income over $60k which has been easily feasible the past 25 years will hit that by investing 15% of their money. Not to mention paying off their house and other assets.
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I despise these 30 year plans: life insurance, mortgages, etc.
Because you "suck" at saving / finance and don't recognize advantages of being g leveraged at low interest rates
I leverage myself just fine thank you. But I also live under my means and save and invest. Taking 30 years to pay off a house is ludicrous, literally no one "needs" a house that takes that long. If you want to choose that and you save/ invest at the same time then that's a different story and all great and dandy.
Again though, we are talking basics here. Basic Life insurance, basic saving 15% to retirement, and the basics of getting out of debt by 60 to actually be able to retire a relaxing life. Sure there are more advanced ways, but the basics are something literally everyone can do.
This post was edited on 10/9/17 at 12:14 pm
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