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Lack of contain
Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:47 am
Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:47 am
The last 2 weeks I have seen the defense lose contain on the edge. It isn’t one or two players it is many of them on both sides. Anyone have a reason for this and why has in not been fixed? Don’t give me lack of D line depth; this is fundinenal football 101, hold the edge and force the play inside where you have help.
Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:49 am to SouthLa.Tiger
Most of this seemed to be due to Arden Key.
Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:49 am to SouthLa.Tiger
Arden Key couldn't contain my grandma. What a fricking disgrace of a football player he is now.
Just play K'lavon Key is worse than hot garbage
Just play K'lavon Key is worse than hot garbage
Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:50 am to Tigre Diablo
Safeties and LB'ers are playing poorly as well. They look lost out there, particularly in pass coverage.
Really need a leader on defense.
Really need a leader on defense.
Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:52 am to SouthLa.Tiger
The wide open spread did it to us last night. 5 wides on the field and all the underneath and short screen passes had our DBs on their heels all night.
I don't really know if Syracuse just really came to play or if our defense overall just isn't that good this year. Maybe it's both. But regardless, it's not good when a bad Syracuse team hangs with us in Death Valley after dark. We have lost our mojo.
I don't really know if Syracuse just really came to play or if our defense overall just isn't that good this year. Maybe it's both. But regardless, it's not good when a bad Syracuse team hangs with us in Death Valley after dark. We have lost our mojo.
Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:52 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
Safeties and LB'ers are playing poorly as well. They look lost out there, particularly in pass coverage.
Really need a leader on defense.
I read an article before the season started about the defensive backs that said Donte is referred to as "Head Honcho". Gave me a very uneasy feeling hearing he was our defensive leader.
Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:53 am to TigerAxeOK
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We have lost our program.
FIFY
Posted on 9/24/17 at 11:04 am to SouthLa.Tiger
Eh... yeah, there HAS to be some lack of fundamental issues there. Happens too much.
A) seen several times where contain THINKS he has contain, but is actually out of position. Whether it's too far upfield or they've let a blocker get outside them. That's a fundamentals issue.
B) In some cases I think it's someone just wanting to make a play. Players, not just freshmen, not playing their assignment and playing within the system. That's what happens when you're plugging holes and there's a lack of trust in the other guy doing his job.
C) DL's inability to eat up enough blockers is affecting the LBs here.
It's not a simple case of teaching one or two, especially when (B) is happening.
But it indeed is killing us.
A) seen several times where contain THINKS he has contain, but is actually out of position. Whether it's too far upfield or they've let a blocker get outside them. That's a fundamentals issue.
B) In some cases I think it's someone just wanting to make a play. Players, not just freshmen, not playing their assignment and playing within the system. That's what happens when you're plugging holes and there's a lack of trust in the other guy doing his job.
C) DL's inability to eat up enough blockers is affecting the LBs here.
It's not a simple case of teaching one or two, especially when (B) is happening.
But it indeed is killing us.
Posted on 9/24/17 at 11:05 am to I20goon
The same plays that state ran on us Georgia had 5 players out there to stop. I agree we have no containment
Posted on 9/24/17 at 11:17 am to SouthLa.Tiger
I noticed this too, particularly when they ran reverses. We had nobody setting the edge on the backside.
Posted on 9/24/17 at 11:21 am to Tigre Diablo
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I read an article before the season started about the defensive backs that said Donte is referred to as "Head Honcho". Gave me a very uneasy feeling hearing he was our defensive leader.
I've said it several times but it's 2008 all over again.
Posted on 9/24/17 at 11:30 am to TigerAxeOK
If you think about it we're dealing with one of the worst combinations for a defense in football...
A depleted, gassed, or otherwise ineffective DL that allows QBs to extend plays, thereby putting additional pressure to hold coverage on a young inexperienced secondary who then can't risk helping in run support, including containment.
Always comes back to the trenches.
A depleted, gassed, or otherwise ineffective DL that allows QBs to extend plays, thereby putting additional pressure to hold coverage on a young inexperienced secondary who then can't risk helping in run support, including containment.
Always comes back to the trenches.
This post was edited on 9/24/17 at 11:32 am
Posted on 9/24/17 at 11:31 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:One play, Donnie Alexander hopped a couple times at the snap, QB dropped to pass, he runs TOWARDS the Line of Scrimmage and the pass went to a receiver in the same space Alexander vacated.
Safeties and LB'ers are playing poorly as well. They look lost out there, particularly in pass coverage.
I think we're mentally challenged on the Defensive side, I really do.
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