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"Russian hack" of DNC happened July 2015, before Trump announced his presidential campaign
Posted on 9/17/17 at 10:13 am
Posted on 9/17/17 at 10:13 am
Has this been discussed before?
According to our governments assessment
assessing Russian activities and intentions in recent elections
The breach took place in July 2015 (page 12)
Trump didn't announce his presidential campaign until July 15th, 2015
The report also goes on to say...
So Russia didn't do this because they are colluding with Trump. They would have planned this well before anyone really believed Trump would be the candidate. Russia did this because like everyone else they hate that bitch Hillary
According to our governments assessment
assessing Russian activities and intentions in recent elections
The breach took place in July 2015 (page 12)
Trump didn't announce his presidential campaign until July 15th, 2015
The report also goes on to say...
quote:
Putin most likely wanted to discredit Secretary Clinton because he has publicly blamed her since 2011 for inciting mass protests against his regime in late 2011 and early 2012, and because he holds a grudge for comments he almost certainly saw as disparaging him
So Russia didn't do this because they are colluding with Trump. They would have planned this well before anyone really believed Trump would be the candidate. Russia did this because like everyone else they hate that bitch Hillary
This post was edited on 9/17/17 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 9/17/17 at 10:23 am to WaWaWeeWa
Don't cloud this issue with facts!
Posted on 9/17/17 at 10:37 am to WaWaWeeWa
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This post was edited on 1/10/21 at 7:48 am
Posted on 9/17/17 at 10:37 am to WaWaWeeWa
quote:Precisely. HRC interfered with Putin's election so it was payback. Plain and simple.
Putin most likely wanted to discredit Secretary Clinton because he has publicly blamed her since 2011 for inciting mass protests against his regime in late 2011 and early 2012, and because he holds a grudge for comments he almost certainly saw as disparaging him
So Russia didn't do this because they are colluding with Trump. They would have planned this well before anyone really believed Trump would be the candidate. Russia did this because like everyone else they hate that bitch Hillary
Posted on 9/17/17 at 10:41 am to WaWaWeeWa
Well looks like you cracked the case. Nothing left to worry about, then.
Posted on 9/17/17 at 10:50 am to Navytiger74
quote:So NT, you're in or around the field.
Well looks like you cracked the case. Nothing left to worry about, then.
How do you feel about the way Hillary and the DNC dealt with cybersecurity protections, threats, and the subsequent investigation?
Posted on 9/17/17 at 10:54 am to Navytiger74
quote:
Well looks like you cracked the case. Nothing left to worry about, then.
Lulz, I did more than CNN/NYT in 5 minutes
Posted on 9/17/17 at 10:57 am to WaWaWeeWa
quote:
Russia did this because like everyone else they hate that bitch Hillary
Yeah, well it's kind of understandable given that she most likely helped the illegal coup in the Ukraine that led to the Crimean Crisis.
Posted on 9/17/17 at 10:57 am to WaWaWeeWa
Fake news
Trump wasn't the nominee yet, but didn't he have a big lead in delegates?????
Trump wasn't the nominee yet, but didn't he have a big lead in delegates?????
Posted on 9/17/17 at 10:58 am to Kraut Dawg
Well it looks like I was wrong, the hack happened in July 2015. I will correct that
Donald Trump didn't even announce he was running for president until July 15th, 2015. So the Russian government planned this before Trump even announced he was running for president
Ha, it's even better than I thought
Credit to Kraut Dawg for the find
Donald Trump didn't even announce he was running for president until July 15th, 2015. So the Russian government planned this before Trump even announced he was running for president
Ha, it's even better than I thought
Credit to Kraut Dawg for the find
This post was edited on 9/17/17 at 11:04 am
Posted on 9/17/17 at 10:59 am to Kraut Dawg
quote:
Russia's US Social Media Hacking: Inside the Information War | Time.com
Like many a good spy tale, the story of how the U.S. learned its democracy could be hacked started with loose lips. In May 2016, a Russian military intelligence officer bragged to a colleague that his organization, known as the GRU, was getting ready to pay Clinton back for what President Vladimir Putin believed was an influence operation she had run against him five years earlier as Secretary of State. The GRU, he said, was going to cause chaos in the upcoming U.S. election.
What the officer didn't know, senior intelligence officials tell TIME, was that U.S. spies were listening. They wrote up the conversation and sent it back to analysts at headquarters, who turned it from raw intelligence into an official report and circulated it. But if the officer's boast seems like a red flag now, at the time U.S. officials didn't know what to make of it. "We didn't really understand the context of it until much later," says the senior intelligence official. Investigators now realize that the officer's boast was the first indication U.S. spies had from their sources that Russia wasn't just hacking email accounts to collect intelligence but was also considering interfering in the vote.
Like much of America, many in the U.S. government hadn't imagined the kind of influence operation that Russia was preparing to unleash on the 2016 election. Fewer still realized it had been five years in the making.
In 2011, protests in more than 70 cities across Russia had threatened Putin's control of the Kremlin. The uprising was organized on social media by a popular blogger named Alexei Navalny, who used his blog as well as Twitter and Facebook to get crowds in the streets. Putin's forces broke out their own social media technique to strike back. When bloggers tried to organize nationwide protests on Twitter using #Triumfalnaya, pro-Kremlin botnets bombarded the hashtag with anti-protester messages and nonsense tweets, making it impossible for Putin's opponents to coalesce.
Putin publicly accused then Secretary of State Clinton of running a massive influence operation against his country, saying she had sent "a signal" to protesters and that the State Department had actively worked to fuel the protests. The State Department said it had just funded pro-democracy organizations. Former officials say any such operations--in Russia or elsewhere--would require a special intelligence finding by the President and that Barack Obama was not likely to have issued one.
After his re-election the following year, Putin dispatched his newly installed head of military intelligence, Igor Sergun, to begin repurposing cyberweapons previously used for psychological operations in war zones for use in electioneering. Russian intelligence agencies funded "troll farms," botnet spamming operations and fake news outlets as part of an expanding focus on psychological operations in cyberspace.
It turns out Putin had outside help.
Posted on 9/17/17 at 10:59 am to NC_Tigah
quote:I don't give a wooden nickel about what Hillary's campaign did to protect a bunch of unclassified campaign-related communications. They were inept. But the Clinton campaign's poor cyber-security is not the subject of this investigation. It neither excuses the actions of foreign actors who sought to interfere nor those of any potential colluders on our side.
How do you feel about the way Hillary and the DNC dealt with cybersecurity protections, threats, and the subsequent investigation?
Posted on 9/17/17 at 10:59 am to WaWaWeeWa
quote:If you say so.
Lulz, I did more than CNN/NYT in 5 minutes
Posted on 9/17/17 at 11:02 am to NC_Tigah
quote:
So NT, you're in or around the field. How do you feel about the way Hillary and the DNC dealt with cybersecurity protections, threats, and the subsequent investigation?
NT would like to answer your question but he's to busy trying to figure out how to get out of the corner he constantly paints himself in. Lol!
Posted on 9/17/17 at 11:03 am to Navytiger74
Russia paying HRC back for election interference had nothing to do with Trump. True or False?
Posted on 9/17/17 at 11:05 am to Bass Tiger
he lost his tan already, here he is...
Posted on 9/17/17 at 11:14 am to Navytiger74
quote:
It neither excuses the actions of foreign actors who sought to interfere nor those of any potential colluders on our side.
Don't try to change the subject
This entire witch hunt started because the media said trump was colluding with Russians because Putin hacked the DNC to help Trump
Trump hasn't even announced he was running for president yet
You clown
Posted on 9/17/17 at 11:20 am to WaWaWeeWa
I get what you are trying to say, but this doesn't mean its impossible there was communication ahead of Trump's official announcement.
I dont think there was any at all, personally. But logically the hack being in 2015 doesnt completely remove all scenarios where russia/trump communicated regarding the hack.
I dont think there was any at all, personally. But logically the hack being in 2015 doesnt completely remove all scenarios where russia/trump communicated regarding the hack.
Posted on 9/17/17 at 11:22 am to WaWaWeeWa
quote:Who changed the subject? We're talking about external actors and their motivations--not poor cybersecurity. And the investigation didn't start over accusations of collusion between Trump's people and the Russians and it didn't start in the media. Quite the opposite on both accounts. I don't have the time to can't catch every new idiot on this site up on the basics of the case just to be able to have a square conversation.
Don't try to change the subject
This entire witch hunt started because the media said trump was colluding with Russians because Putin hacked the DNC to help Trump
Trump hasn't even announced he was running for president yet
You clown
Posted on 9/17/17 at 11:25 am to Navytiger74
quote:You can't catch every new idiot up on the facts? Please post some facts first.
Who changed the subject? We're talking about external actors and their motivations--not poor cybersecurity. And the investigation didn't start over accusations of collusion between Trump's people and the Russians and it didn't start in the media. Quite the opposite on both accounts. I don't have the time to can't catch every new idiot on this site up on the basics of the case just to be able to have a square conversation.
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